RE: Elzetta ZSM Tactical Shotgun Flashlight Mount...?

[Danz la Nuit]

http://elzetta.com/zsmFAQ.htm

Is it any good?

If so...

Any recommendations for a light to put in it that cost less than 50$ ?

[Meatball]

Elzetta is a great quality mount. I have one on my 500.
I have a Fenix TK15 (more than $50 but you can check ebay).

[aippi]

Here we go again. You got a Surefire light for less then Dealer cost? If it was used and a private sell then yes, However, if the seller is claiming it is new and is selling these on e-bay it is a clone. Surefire Dealers can not sell on e-bay per our "sales agreement" with surefire and we certainly can't sell these items for less then they cost us. The clone sellers sell hundreds of these china clones on e-bay. they sell plenty of the Surefire forends which are also clones and sell for far below dealer cost of the genuine product.

So beware of these products being sold on e-bay as most all are clones. Yes, you may see a few genuine items as dealers go out of business and don't care wether they violate their sales agreement. Or, they are selling discontinued models of Surefire lights as we can sell them any way we choose. But if you think that e-bay seller who is selling hundreds of these on e-bay for less then dealer is selling you a genuine product then you are not using your head. I am a Surefire Professional Dealer and I know the price of that light and dealer cost is more then $50. I also signed a "limited sales agreement" and I know the rules of this company.

The fact that these lights are clones is well document so beware. Not picking on anyone in this thread who may have bought a clone. I am just warning others.

[summit2g]

I saw the Elzetta light title so I stopped by.
I have an Elzetta mount on my AR with a Streamlight Polytach flashlight.
I love it and through 800 rounds the flashlight never comes loose. Highly recommend it.

http://elzetta.com/zsmFAQ.htm

Is it any good?

If so...

Any recommendations for a light to put in it that cost less than 50$ ?

[STAGE 2]

If it was used and a private sell then yes, However, if the seller is claiming it is new and is selling these on e-bay it is a clone.

There could be hundreds of reasons why you can purchase a new surefire on ebay for that price. The seller could have won it or received it as a gift or purchased it and never took it out of the box, etc. I've sold a new surefire on ebay for one of these exact reasons.

Just cause you cant sell them on ebay for that price doesn't mean others cant. Plus there are all sorts of ways of getting around these agreements.

[aippi]

Did you read my post at all??????????? I am not talking about a guy selling one. I even gave some reason it could be a ligit sale. I am talking about the e-bay seller selling hundreds of these. Also, I have the dealers list and I get the max volume discount and know the cost of these. You can not explain how these guys sell hundreds of these products for less then dealer cost. Well, I can. They are china clones. So even if they are genuine and the guy is simply violating his agreement, how is it he is paying surefire more for the product then he is selling it for on e-bay. Simple, he is not selling genuine surefire products as he is selling china clones. It seems to me that anyone with some common sence would understand you can't stay in business paying more for a product then you are selling it for.

Every time this comes up I get the same responses from guys who just don't get it. So it is of no value to keep responding. Those that do, do and those that don't, won't. This topic is well covered on all the blogs and the search function is your friend. The cloned items on e-bay include high dollar optics and many other products. There are china clones all over e-bay and if that is OK with the buyer then fine for them.

[EXTREMEOPS1]

Surefire clones

There could be hundreds of reasons why you can purchase a new surefire on ebay for that price. The seller could have won it or received it as a gift or purchased it and never took it out of the box, etc. I've sold a new surefire on ebay for one of these exact reasons.

Just cause you cant sell them on ebay for that price doesn't mean others cant. Plus there are all sorts of ways of getting around these agreements.

The Elzetta flashlight mount is a quality piece of kit and holds my surefire G2 pro led perfectly

I am certain there are many clones of every item imaginable my surefire led I purchased on Ebay for $40 cheaper than the authorized dealer was not one of them as I registered the light with surefire and the seller was not a bulk seller, he had one he had won in a raffle. Personally I am happy with the surefire products of which I have many variants great customer service from surefire if I had any issues.

[aippi]

Cool beans. You got a great deal and a great light. I use one on my personal weapon as the 15 lumens is all that is needed inside and I have 200 if I have to go outside.

I suspect Surefire will be coming out with the same dual capacity on the Surefire Forends for shotguns. For this reason I am not stocking the forends for as soon as these dual capacity ones come out anything I have in the shop will be antiquated.

[STAGE 2]

Did you read my post at all??????????? I am not talking about a guy selling one. I even gave some reason it could be a ligit sale. I am talking about the e-bay seller selling hundreds of these.

Yes I did. You stated...

If it was used and a private sell then yes, However, if the seller is claiming it is new and is selling these on e-bay it is a clone.

You didn't say anything about a dealer here. You said unless the item is used, its a fake. If this isn't what you mean then you should clarify.

[2nd Shot]

Normally I'm with the Buy American crowd, and some of the clones are indeed garbage, or even worse, imposters posing as the real deal.

That said, some of these knockoffs follow the form factor of the old trusty Surefire 6P but leave it in the dust when it comes to features. You can't put an 18650 high output Li-Ion cell in a stock Surfire 6P, but some of these knockoffs are overbored from the factory for them. Your choice of forward or reverse clicky type switch. Hard anodized type III or normal type II finish. Standard bezel, or medium or high spiked (crenelated) bezel.

And when it comes down to it, I only want it for the body anyways (which they sell the bodies too just so you can build your own) - I wouldn't use a stock Surefire module with 2 or 3 generation old LED technology, but install a high output module using current LED technology that puts out more light, for longer, with less heat. 200 Lumens? A properly driven XM-L LED will put out over 1000 lumens, consuming up to 4 amps in the process. If I have to light up a possible threat, I want them lit up, blind, and completely dumbfounded.

Not all knockoffs are necessarily bad, if they're not fraudulently claiming to be another product.

[aippi]

I should of used the word "OR" - private seller as that was my intent and is the point I was making. That becomes obvious as you read the entire post. Reading the entire post makes the point and picking at a word is petty.

[2nab]

I've had great luck with my Fenix lights. Good value. Not made in USA but also not cheap junk. +1 for Fenix

[monk]

Also got the Elzetta ZSM with a Fenix TK15. Love the damn thing. I also like the fact that, should I want to, I can install my pressure switch; I got one thinking I could make it fit somewhere, still having trouble finding a good spot.

[a1rfreshener]

i have it on my mossberg 930 spx and it holds rock solid after shooting slugs and 00 buck i noticed that my strike bezzel is loose a few turns... shows how solid the mount is in my opinion. o yea and i have a o light m20s warrior.