saiga 12 attachments

[vanskye]

I've been trying to find a straight answer now for weeks. Can anyone tell me if it is legal to have a pistol grip with collapsible stock plus a vertical grip on a saiga 12 that already has a bullet button? The answers i've been getting are of course, yes it's legal and no it's not. If not, what about pistol grip,fixed stock and vertical grip? Any information will be greatly appreciated. Thank.

[psssniper]

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/sgflowchart.pdf

[Jayruta]

That would be no... shotguns can only have 1 evil feature. A pistol grip is 1 so youI cannot have anything else. Don't confuse rifle laws with shotgun laws...

[Carlow202]

+1. I agree with Jayruta

That would be no... shotguns can only have 1 evil feature. A pistol grip is 1 so youI cannot have anything else. Don't confuse rifle laws with shotgun laws...

[Mesa Tactical]

I've been trying to find a straight answer now for weeks. Can anyone tell me if it is legal to have a pistol grip with collapsible stock plus a vertical grip on a saiga 12 that already has a bullet button? The answers i've been getting are of course, yes it's legal and no it's not. If not, what about pistol grip,fixed stock and vertical grip? Any information will be greatly appreciated. Thank.

For weeks, you say? This is not in the least bit confusing, honestly:

12276.1 (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:

. . .

6. A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
1. A folding or telescoping stock.
2. A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.

7. A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.

8. Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Two clicks after Googling "california assault weapon."

[urethra.franklin]

wow.... #8 is very odd.

does this apply to many shotguns (besides the Taurus Judge and similar models)? and (not looking for real logic here since we're dealing with CA gun laws) what would be so bad about a revolving cylinder? not like they would hold 50 rounds like a drum or be quickly reloaded any faster than throwing another shell into the bottom...

just curious..

[Mesa Tactical]

does this apply to many shotguns (besides the Taurus Judge and similar models)? and (not looking for real logic here since we're dealing with CA gun laws) what would be so bad about a revolving cylinder?

This language is specific to the old Armsel Striker:



The reasoning behind the ban is that the Armsel Striker is scary, really scary.

Since the Armsel Striker was imported, one of the first acts of the Bush Administration's BATFE was to declare it a destructive device in accordance with the 1968 Gun Control Act, and they are no longer imported.

[prc77]

That would be no... shotguns can only have 1 evil feature. A pistol grip is 1 so youI cannot have anything else. Don't confuse rifle laws with shotgun laws...

and don't confuse auto loading shotguns with pump action shotguns

[ivsamhell]

That would be no... shotguns can only have 1 evil feature. A pistol grip is 1 so youI cannot have anything else. Don't confuse rifle laws with shotgun laws...

uh pretty sure you can have pistol grip and vertical foregrip, thats more than 1 evil feature. You just can't have either with in combination with a collapsible stock.

[edward]

That would be no... shotguns can only have 1 evil feature. A pistol grip is 1 so youI cannot have anything else. Don't confuse rifle laws with shotgun laws...

FUD. Unless you just mistakenly did not qualify your statement as follows.

You can have a pistol grip or vfg or both if you want, they are in the same numbered category so if you have one or both it still counts as only (1) defining feature.

The telescoping or folding stock is the other defining feature which you may not have if you already have a pg/vfg of any sort.

This is speaking for semis only of course.

[THE VILLIAN]

Thanks for the clarification, i was wondering myself about the pg with the vfg but also Would a permanently attached polychoke be illegal in cali considering the end can be screwed off to expose threading?

[ivsamhell]

Thanks for the clarification, i was wondering myself about the pg with the vfg but also Would a permanently attached polychoke be illegal in cali considering the end can be screwed off to expose threading?

no, it doesn't need to be permanently attached either. threaded barrel is not regulated. look at the flowchart!

[THE VILLIAN]

no, it doesn't need to be permanently attached either. threaded barrel is not regulated. look at the flowchart!

SO THAT ONLY APPLYS TO RIFLES IN CALI?

[ivsamhell]

SO THAT ONLY APPLYS TO RIFLES IN CALI?

not those either, that was the federal AWB issue, never a CA law. keep face palming.

[psssniper]

We have the flow charts for a reason, print them out, laminate them, memorize them, follow them and carry them wherever you go with guns. DO NOT rely on advice from people on the internet or your buddies at the gun shop. Seriously, how hard is that?