Hull fails to eject on 870

[cgates]

Last night I took my relatively new 870 out to the range. It only had about 50 rounds through it before last night. Between a buddy of mine and myself we sent roughly another 175 rounds down the pipe.

More often than not, the second to last shell did not eject properly. The top of the hull was sticking out with the brass end hung up in the receiver. This happened with both of us and with different ammo as well. The last shell came out of the mag tube with no problems and was always seen in the receiver ready to be loaded into the chamber. This problem never happened except on the second to last shell.

The Gun: 870 Express - all stock except for a barrel swap to 18.5" and a +2 mag tube extension.

The ammo: Federal bulk pack from wal-mart and winchester upland game loads.

thoughts?

[incredablehefey]

common on newer 870's (express) start either polishing it yourself or start the complaint process with remmington

or try this

[hcbr]

Do a search on here, aippi might be chiming in soon to give you his expertise, and his website has instructions on the polishing.

[cgates]

does nobody read the actual post anymore or do you guys think extraction and ejection are the same thing?

why would chamber polishing be a suggestion to an ejection issue? That is a moot point anyhow because the chamber is already polished. Spent hulls come out with little to no force at all.

[aippi]

As for ejection the weapon has no idea wether it is the first shell or last. If you are racking the weapon back with authority there is no reason this shell should not eject as the others did.

I recommend you break this new weapon in by racking it back as if you were trying to ram the forend though your shoulder and racking it forward like you are trying to rip the forend off the weapon.

And yes, extraction can have an affect on ejection. If the round extracts sluggishly it can come off the extractor before it is all the way to the rear so the ejector does not do it's job. So you have a empty round sitting there. So, yes, go to www.aiptactical.com and click on the red link "Install and cleaning" and make a rod like on that page and follow those instructions. Get all that mess out of the chamber. Next time on the range rack that weapon like you gotta a pair and see if the issue is resolved.

[JohnFLand]

JD -- re "As for ejection the weapon has no idea wether it is the first shell or last":

Isn't there one difference with a 2nd-to-the-last-round that's been extracted, with the last round in the receiver (as the OP stated)? In *this* case, the follower is present, whereas in all of the other cases, only a shell case is presented from the magazine. Is it possible for that difference to cause a problem (such as the follower intruding too far into the receiver)?

[cgates]

chamber has been polished a lot. this isnt my first 870 so its been done before. The extraction in this case is fine and in this case isn't sluggish/affecting the ejection. I have even taken fired hulls and manually inserted into chamber to verify even after firing they slide right out. this gun was racked hard not only by me but my buddy as well - and hes a big dude. In fact we talked about racking it hard half way through the session. I told him to rack it as hard as he could and not worry about breaking it. I thought maybe he was being easy on it because it wasn't his gun.

I know the gun wouldn't know the difference, which is why this issue is so perplexing that it would happen pretty consistently on the exact same round with two different shooters and two different ammo types. It sure can be a coincidence that it was always the second to last round but after that many rounds and the problem never happening on any other round really leaves me at a loss....and what brings me here. We cant really solve all the 870s problems by polishing the chamber can we? What about the ejector its self?

maybe I should have gotten a P model because we all know they use totally different and better parts than the express, and they dont have those plastic extractor thingys (if youre slow, that was a joke so dont get on my ***)

[aippi]

Well, the ejector on the 12 ga has an ejector spring which simply acts as a spacer. If you look at the 20ga 870 you will see there is not ejector spring. Also, even if your ejector spring breaks and you rack the 12ga with authority the empty shell will eject out as long as the ejector is in place and your is. It is ejecting all the other rounds so it is functional. So with that said............I ain't got a clue as to your issue. Never heard anything like it and without shooting the weapon I could not even try to guess.

what I can say is keep shooting and the issue could go away as your weapon is not broke in with such a low round count. Not saying it will, but it is possible.