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  • royrapoport
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 82

    $29.95 Red Dot Sights

    Out of a probably-misguided desire to be able to use my HD shotgun, a 590, for sporting clays, I replaced the 20" barrel with ramp sight with a 24" barrel with a bead. As a result, of course, I could probably aim well for clays, but was concerned about home defense use. Plus, I was wondering if maybe a red dot sight would give me more visibility around the point of aim and make it easier to hit the clays.

    Because I'm cheap, and because I wasn't sure how well this would work, I got a $29.95 Amazon special -- the http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ZVFF20

    Installed it on my 590, found that I needed to raise the stock to get a good cheek weld, got the Knoxx with a comb raiser. Yesterday, I went to the indoor range to zero the sight. Today, went with three people who'd never shot a shotgun (or, in fact, any rifle) to do sporting clays. The outing was a wild success, but about half way through, my girlfriend complains she can't see the red dot anymore.

    I assume, of course, that she's doing something wrong, or that maybe it's because of the rain, so I ask her to try to change her cheek weld a few times, and ... nothing works for her.

    Finally, I decide to look through the sight and ... I don't see anything either. Damn. Someone else with us points out it looks like the glass is actually half out of its frame. We pop it in and it works fine.

    And then three shots later? The glass pops out completely, flying out about as far as the spent shotgun shell.

    And this is why you don't spend $29.95 on your sight.

    (We switched to a range O/U, and the people I was with liked it much more than my 590, so all's well that ends well. But I really do like the red dot aiming, and -- now that I know that -- will replace this sight with something a little more high quality. Maybe even spend $50 this time. Kidding, kidding )

    -roy
  • #2
    Mossy Man
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 7641

    i bought a similar sight on amazon......


    for my 10/22

    things like this work perfect for the right application.

    you have to consider the amount of recoil you're looking at with a 12GA shotgun. red dot sights need to be exceptionally resilient to shock resistance

    i tried the same sight on my mini-14, and while it held the zero well enough and still functioned, i felt that its lifespan would be reduced significantly.

    needless to say, it works like a charm on my 10/22

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    • #3
      jonc
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2009
      • 6402

      Great ....

      Nice price,,,,

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      • #4
        BigDogatPlay
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2007
        • 7362

        Just personal opinion but if your self defense purpose does not involve making shots with slugs at distance then a red dot is superfluous and something else that will break. For clays, red dots are largely worthless as you seem to have found out from switching off to an O/U.

        And I haven't seen a $30 red dot yet that would stand up to a 12 gauge. But experimenting and finding out for yourself what works well and what doesn't is more often the fun part... it just sucks when stuff like this happens.
        -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

        Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

        Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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        • #5
          hcbr
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 4733

          it looks exactly like the Barska, dunno IMHO i'd go with something more like a bushnell trophy than that.
          Be the change that you wish to see in the world.Mahatma Gandhi

          "A bullet sounds the same in every language..."
          Stewie Griffin (Family Guy Episode: Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story 2005)

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          • #6
            -hanko
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2002
            • 14174

            Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
            Just personal opinion but if your self defense purpose does not involve making shots with slugs at distance then a red dot is superfluous and something else that will break. For clays, red dots are largely worthless as you seem to have found out from switching off to an O/U.
            This, and /thread

            -hanko
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