Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

P Stamps on Western Field (Stevens) SG

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Nihonto Chicken
    Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 455

    P Stamps on Western Field (Stevens) SG

    Okay, no action on the C&R forum, so I'll give it a try here. I recently got a Ward's Western Field Model 30 (badge named Stevens Model 520) with the tang mounted safety. It is very similar to the Stevens 520-30 made for the military during WWII, but I assume mine was made in the late '20s or early '30s. However, I note that it has a P stamped on both the the receiver and barrel, which I associate with the P and flaming bomb stamps on military issued shotguns (no flaming bomb stamp on my gun). Is the P on my SG just a proof mark applied to civilian pieces, or what? There is no such P mark on my civilian Stevens 620. Photo below:



    Hopefully someone here can provide a good answer so I don't have to register to ask on Shotgunworld or (shudder!) Jouster.
    "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~ C. S. Lewis
  • #2
    prc77
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 2578

    I believe that it is a mark to indicate that the barrel has been tested "PROOFED"
    C Co. 509th ABN/PFDR
    83-85

    USPSA CRO
    MEMBER: USPSA, GSSF, Richmond Rod & Gun, Sunnyvale Rod & Gun


    sigpic

    Comment

    • #3
      Mickey D
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 3502

      As stated, proof mark.
      ***Honesty is the Foundation of One's Character***

      *** In comparing the virtues of various calibers, using hollow point ammo: it is absolutely undeniable that, while a 9 mm or .40 S&W may or may not expand, a .45 will never shrink. ***

      ***Mature Up***

      Comment

      • #4
        Nihonto Chicken
        Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 455

        Originally posted by prc77
        I believe that it is a mark to indicate that the barrel has been tested "PROOFED"
        Originally posted by Mickey D
        As stated, proof mark.
        Yes, a proof stamp, but were such marks applied to civilian retail market arms? Here is a link to a sales notice on another forum (no relation) that I came across while researching this question. The fellow has a Stevens 620 with U.S. stamp (shown) plus a P barrel stamp (not shown in ad) and no flaming bomb stamp:



        Here is his P stamp as shown in his extensive Photobucket pics, appears to match mine:



        Here is the entire Photobucket coverage:

        A private space for your group's photos and videos. Share, react, and relive moments together. Available on iOS, Android, and desktop. Free for new sign-ups.


        Interestingly, his gun has the trench type barrel, though the barrel may be a replacement. If it is all original, I would suspect that the receiver and barrel would have the same circle-H, circle-J, non-circled Q marks as shown on the trigger guard (my civilian 620 has different letters, but they all match, and are there in lieu of a serial number).

        So is this Stevens 620 perhaps a fake that was not carried to completion? Or, what I'm beginning to suspect, were there shotguns in stock that were intended for the US Military that were proofed and possibly modified, but which for whatever reason were never accepted and were subsequently diverted back into the civilian market? Inquiring minds want to know!
        "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~ C. S. Lewis

        Comment

        • #5
          Nihonto Chicken
          Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 455

          The Plot Thickens ...

          Well, here's someone's answer on another forum (see last response):

          Weird but nice Stevens 620 - WWII?

          Anyone care to confirm or deny?
          "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~ C. S. Lewis

          Comment

          Working...
          UA-8071174-1