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I recently met up with a fellow calgunner to purchase and transfer a saiga 12. We both agreed to meet at Guns, Fishing, and Other Stuff in Vacaville. We entered the facility and the guy at the counter checked the SG to make sure it wasn't loaded and sent us upstairs. We proceeded upstairs and started the DROS, the young guy behind the counter was quick and the transaction went quickly.
We both leave the place thinking that was one of the easiest DROSes ever! I get a call 4 minutes later and am told to return to the place immediately. Luckily, I stopped for gas. On arrival, a lady behind the counter informs me that the seller needs to be contacted so the he can remove the SG from the building. She then informs me that the firearm is illegal. I then call the seller to comeback, which he then proceeds to do. I ask the lady why she considers the firearm illegal, it has a 19"bbl and 41in OAL, with a properly installed maglock. She then states she doesn't know and that the owner of the store said so. I then ask for my DROS fee to be refunded and she states that she won't do it because they started it and if I want it back we can call the Sheriff's office.
The seller returns and tries to explain the legality of the SG, but the owner named Travis was staunch in his belief that the firearm was illegal and didn't want to hear our explanation. He then called the saiga 12 a , "street sweeper". Not wanting to deal with them anymore, we yelped the closet store that would complete a DROS. I at that point didn't care about the refund, but wanted to complete the transfer because I was coming from Daly City, an hour and half drive away.
We then drove to Center Mass, 5-10 min away. We informed them about the entire ordeal and they were irate that an FFL would not only cancel the DROS, but would not refund us either. They then proceeded to call DOJ to make sure they could complete the transfer because it had been cancelled earlier. They told me I should go back to get a refund and a copy of the DROS. I knew this place would be fine with all the Calguns posters and flyers they had.
I went back the Guns, Fishing, and Other Stuff and asked for a copy of the cancelled DROS and informed the owner that I had contacted the DOJ and they said the firearm was compliant to state law. He then just waved his arms and said it wasn't before.
I am on the freeway home and guess who calls, one of the workers from Guns, Fishing, and Other Stuff to inform me that they had made a mistake and would be willing to refund me.
From this experience I know that I should've called beforehand to confirm that they would complete the DROS and am a lot more informed of my rights as to dealing with an FFL. I am just annoyed at the fact that they probably wouldn't have refunded me, had I not informed them that the DOJ was informed of their actions and that as an FFL you would know more about the business your in. A simple call to the DOJ from their point would've resolved the issue easily.
Sorry for my long rant.
We both leave the place thinking that was one of the easiest DROSes ever! I get a call 4 minutes later and am told to return to the place immediately. Luckily, I stopped for gas. On arrival, a lady behind the counter informs me that the seller needs to be contacted so the he can remove the SG from the building. She then informs me that the firearm is illegal. I then call the seller to comeback, which he then proceeds to do. I ask the lady why she considers the firearm illegal, it has a 19"bbl and 41in OAL, with a properly installed maglock. She then states she doesn't know and that the owner of the store said so. I then ask for my DROS fee to be refunded and she states that she won't do it because they started it and if I want it back we can call the Sheriff's office.
The seller returns and tries to explain the legality of the SG, but the owner named Travis was staunch in his belief that the firearm was illegal and didn't want to hear our explanation. He then called the saiga 12 a , "street sweeper". Not wanting to deal with them anymore, we yelped the closet store that would complete a DROS. I at that point didn't care about the refund, but wanted to complete the transfer because I was coming from Daly City, an hour and half drive away.
We then drove to Center Mass, 5-10 min away. We informed them about the entire ordeal and they were irate that an FFL would not only cancel the DROS, but would not refund us either. They then proceeded to call DOJ to make sure they could complete the transfer because it had been cancelled earlier. They told me I should go back to get a refund and a copy of the DROS. I knew this place would be fine with all the Calguns posters and flyers they had.
I went back the Guns, Fishing, and Other Stuff and asked for a copy of the cancelled DROS and informed the owner that I had contacted the DOJ and they said the firearm was compliant to state law. He then just waved his arms and said it wasn't before.
I am on the freeway home and guess who calls, one of the workers from Guns, Fishing, and Other Stuff to inform me that they had made a mistake and would be willing to refund me.
From this experience I know that I should've called beforehand to confirm that they would complete the DROS and am a lot more informed of my rights as to dealing with an FFL. I am just annoyed at the fact that they probably wouldn't have refunded me, had I not informed them that the DOJ was informed of their actions and that as an FFL you would know more about the business your in. A simple call to the DOJ from their point would've resolved the issue easily.
Sorry for my long rant.
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