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  • Deadon
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2010
    • 9975

    Old old shotgun

    My Grandpa passed a couple months ago and I learned that he passed me his shotgun that has been passed down to him. Does anyone know about old shotguns on here? I would like to know some info about it. But I wanted to see if anyone knows about old shotguns before I post a pic. Thanks guys
    Lions not sheep.
  • #2
    CC Gunsmithing
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 649

    I worked on a pair from London, circa 1880, where are you located? http://www.yelp.com/biz/cc-gunsmithing-redwood-city
    http://ccgunsmithing.webs.com/

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    • #3
      Condorguns
      Still lost in the desert
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Dec 2007
      • 3302

      Have had lots of old shotguns come into the shop. Post away and lets see what you have. try to make sure you get some good pics of any markings and the bbl's.

      Torrey
      You, you, and you: Panic. The rest of you, come with me.
      Incoming fire has the right of way.

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      • #4
        hcbr
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 4733

        Post away, and be confident in your calguns brethren, they are a great at helping out!
        Be the change that you wish to see in the world.Mahatma Gandhi

        "A bullet sounds the same in every language..."
        Stewie Griffin (Family Guy Episode: Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story 2005)

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        • #5
          Deadon
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2010
          • 9975

          I cant read any of the stamping on it.
          Last edited by Deadon; 09-07-2019, 8:25 AM.
          Lions not sheep.

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          • #6
            Condorguns
            Still lost in the desert
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Dec 2007
            • 3302

            Is it that you can't read it or that it is not there?

            Check the rib between the bbls.
            You, you, and you: Panic. The rest of you, come with me.
            Incoming fire has the right of way.

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            • #7
              BigDogatPlay
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2007
              • 7362

              There appears to be some type of maker's mark under and behind the hammer in photo 0558. Also in that photo the barrels appear to be damascus, or wound steel.

              Pop off the fore end and you should have markings, particularly proof marks, on the undersides of the barrels. Proof marks can tell a good deal of the story.

              Given the overall condition, this could likely just be a wall hanger for you.
              -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

              Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

              Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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              • #8
                Condorguns
                Still lost in the desert
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Dec 2007
                • 3302

                Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
                There appears to be some type of maker's mark under and behind the hammer in photo 0558. .
                Dang...I think your right...good eyes!

                MUST GET CLOSER...pretty please

                Also try the rib between the bbls, the underside of the forend. Lots of info there. I want to reach into the pic's and look myself ...lol
                You, you, and you: Panic. The rest of you, come with me.
                Incoming fire has the right of way.

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                • #9
                  CC Gunsmithing
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 649

                  Originally posted by Condorguns
                  Dang...I think your right...good eyes!

                  MUST GET CLOSER...pretty please

                  Also try the rib between the bbls, the underside of the forend. Lots of info there. I want to reach into the pic's and look myself ...lol
                  Pleeeeeease!!!
                  http://ccgunsmithing.webs.com/

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                  • #10
                    Agamemnon
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 81

                    It looks a lot like the old L.C.Smith - Fulton Arms piece I inherited from my grandfather's gun cabinet.

                    Or it could be that many old double barrels look the same to novices.

                    If it is a Fulton it should have serialization on the inside of the break (Apologies if this is what Condor meant, my firearm anatomy knowledge is not all it could be. Couldn't tell if he meant in the break or on the bottom of the gun).

                    O/T: Any good smiths for old shotguns in the SD area? I would like to get mine inspected and running again, if feasible.
                    dum vivimus, vivamus

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                    • #11
                      Utha Schleigle
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 593

                      Also a close look to see if the barrels are demaskus barrels. From the picture {maybe a shadow} the head space at the breach looks loose. Chambers need to be measure before any ammo would be ever though of.

                      Close pictures of barrel metal - hinge with barrel off - half moon round part of hinge wouldbe great.

                      A gunsnith is reccommended - but a fun fast test is put one sheet of paper in the gapp between breach block and back of barrel chamber - close it up = then can you pull the paper out of action - if so it is dangerious - needs a gunsmith or wall hanger collector.

                      added thoughts

                      This is one of th style of guns you NEVER DRY FIRE.




                      You can make your own chamber measuring caliper at home.

                      Last edited by Utha Schleigle; 08-09-2011, 9:28 PM. Reason: ODDS are it is a collector not a shooter.
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                      • #12
                        Mike A
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1209

                        Not a Fulton (they are boxlocks and this is either a sidelock or a sideplated boxlock, which is not likely given its age). It MIGHT be an L.C. Smith hammer model MADE in Fulton, NY, but you would have markings on it that would say that somewhere on the sidelocks.

                        In any case, it is in really bad shape and would cost a great deal to get into safe condition. The left hammer looks like a replacement to me; never a good sign. Barrels have been cut, for sure, which kills any collector's value, even if it is a good gun to begin with. Unless you can find some high-end brand name (and believe it) this looks like a good gun to hang in the bar as a decoration.

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