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  • Pvt. Cowboy
    Banned
    • Oct 2006
    • 2688

    My Benelli panic has been solved.

    Last week I grabbed by M1S90 Tactical and drove off to the dump near here to give the big girl a workout. I think I've only got about 100 rounds at most through this gun in the two years I've had it. The only modifications from stock are a SureFire fore-end and a Tactical Solutions buttstock-strapped nylon shell carrier.

    At the range, I loaded up some Winchester Super Handicap AA 2-3/4" shells and had no problems cycling the gun. I loaded up the tube with Winchester Super X 2-3/4" Magnum 00 buck and chambered a shell. Pulled the trigger and the round fired but with no ejection. The shell is half-extracted from the chamber and the bolt is frozen. Hmn. Consternation.

    Dumped the shell and chambered a new round from the tube. Fired and got a stovepipe jam. Uh oh. Cleared it, rechambered, and the next round ejected but the bolt was hung up on the top of the round down in the elevator. Hoo boy, now I'm sad. Aren't Benellis handcrafted by magical little Italian elves living high up in the Italian Alps in a secluded forest glade protected by a beautiful Wizardess clothed in white samite who ensures that all Benellis cycle any shotgun load ever known to humankind?!

    Well, crap. Maybe it was just this box of ammo. Yeah, that's it. I bet I left them in weather/humidity conditions that didn't meet or exceeded the recommended storage practice clearly marked on the box label. Let's try a new box that came straight from my sealed ammo can that I haven't opened in two years: BOOM! Stovepipe jam. BOOM! Bolt stuck back holding the spent shell. BOOM! Shell ejected, but next round sitting on the lowered elevator. Now I'm actually frightened. The box doesn't say 'Low Recoil', so what's going on?

    I reload the rest of the AA skeet shells and they all fire without a hitch. I even rapid fire a tube off as fast as I can, and there's not a single failure. I examine the buckshot boxes, and they're from entirely different lots. I pack up and leave the dump with great worry about the reliability of my home defense artillery piece. Until I get to the local gunsmith, I keep it loaded with birdshot and pack up all the suspect bunkshot and set it aside.

    Arriving at the gunsmith, I tell him my problems. Since they're a Benelli dealer, maybe they'll know what's the matter. He places his fists on his hips and says that he's the bonny Benelli prince of Reno and he'll know what the trouble is, rest assured. He's used his Benelli M1S90 in 3-gun matches since time immemorial. I hand the gun over to him and he gets down to inspecting it. He headspaces the action. He checks the mag tube spring tension. He cycles the action numerous times in various ways: short stroking it, ripping it back and letting it go, slowly riding the bolt back and forth feeling for hangups, locking it to the rear, cycling dummy rounds, and then has me feel what he's feeling with the action smoothness just before he proceeds to break the shotgun down. He looks at me with the universal 'I know EXACTLY what the problem is' look.

    "Benellis need sloppy wet lubrication on all three surfaces of the bolt carrier group rails. This gun is nearly bone dry compared to how it should be lubricated."

    He shows me how the Benelli's bolt carrier has three surfaces that ride the internal rail millings and that they need grease lubrication, not oil. I have Wilson Ultima-Lube at home, but I've never used it on my Benelli. He tells me that's the best stuff to line the rails in the receiver, then he applies a black graphite grease to the underside of the carrier, the side surfaces, and the top surface. The bolt is now gooey black like the bottom surface has been dunked in tar. He reassembles the gun, rechecks headspacing with the tension rings that come with the SureFire fore-end, and cycles the action a few dozen times.

    "Now try it". What a difference. Now the action is smooth as butter. It's as if it's riding on the wings of an angel.

    What I leaned from his advice is this:

    1. Though the factory manual doesn't exactly say so, Benelli ARMA system shotguns like to be well-lubricated with a heavy grease along the carrier rails. You can add light oil, but light oil alone just doesn't cut it. Use a lithium-based graphite impregnated black grease. How much is enough? Until the rails are coated and they look like melted chocolate. Simply using BreakFree is unsatisfactory for a Benelli. When they say grease, they mean grease.

    2. The rear of the bolt needs a glob of black grease where the hammer meets the firing pin. That's what was causing the occasional bolt hangups.

    3. Someone recommended to try to switch the choke from ImpCyl to Open. The gunsmith said that it's neither here nor there as far as functional reliability. My problem was purely lubrication deficient in nature.

    4. You've properly lubricated a Benelli when it lightly splatters you with fine dots of warm flying grease upon firing.

    5. New Benelli auto-shotguns that have not been broken in can benefit well from shooting a few hundred 3" Magnum loads including 1oz slugs. Give your new Benelli a real workout with heavy loads. You really need to put the pedal to the metal to smooth out a Benelli. On his advice, I purchase several boxes of Federal Premium 3" Magnum 000 Buckshot and the proper grease. He reminds me to re-lubricate well with his recommended graphite grease as well as the Wilson grease I already have at home.

    I thank him and he bids me to go forth and do no more evil. I get out to the dump just in time before shooting hours are over. Using the same problematic 00 buckshot, I load up and hope for the best. BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! (*reload*) BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!

    No problems! The chamber smells like warm grease. I try a box of the 000 buck and it cycles without a hitch making big impressive fireballs like the battleship USS New Jersey's 16" guns.

    I drive home satisfied with a new-found respect for the fact that some guns require entirely different lubrication conditions than others need. I had been lubricating my Benelli like it's an assault rifle, and that just will not suffice. Now I keep my Benelli lubed up like a greased pig at the county fair. Maybe you other Benelli owners knew this, but I sure didn't.
  • #2
    Fatcat
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1299

    Grease is OK as long as you change it out regularly. Cleaning and basic maintenance should be done on any quality firearm. If you just pile it on when it dries out, the slury becomes like lapping compound. Like your gunsmith surmised, this was the source of your malfunctions. BTW, in very hot climates, grease is OK. But it may turn into cement in very cold tempuratures. YMMV, but I'll stick to a high quality synthetic oil.

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    • #3
      duenor
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Mar 2007
      • 4617

      ive only ever used CLP and ive never had a problem.
      the only time my benelli ever jammed was when I tried using LEO low recoil 00 buck in conjunction with a surefire and pistol grip. the LR ammo didnt have enough kick and it would jam.

      this would ONLY occur with LR ammo. full power ammo ran just fine. eventually however i got tired of the surefire and swapped the original back in. i actually prefer it like that.
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      • #4
        randy
        In Memoriam
        • Nov 2006
        • 4642

        I've never heard of gobs of grease on a Benelli but if it works for you good on ya.

        I've always lubed mine with the lightest oil I could find I think some of my Benellis came with FP 10 oil any way that's what I've been using at home at the range it's whatever they have that's light.
        I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

        When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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        • #5
          rorschach
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 4405

          Good stuff, thanks for the heads up. I havent had a problem with my M1S90 yet, but I'll file this one in the Brain Housing Group.
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          • #6
            savasyn
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 3201

            Early on, before my M1S90 was fully broken in, I had a day similar to the one you describe at the dump. Nothing but jams and frustration(it was the same day in the desert that I discovered my SAR8 was ammo sensitive and that I forgot to bring the key to unlock the case for my .22 rifle....) The Benelli worked perfectly before that day and has worked perfectly since, but I just don't trust it to cycle 100% of the time which is why I have a 590 pump for HD.

            I enjoy shooting the Benelli, but it's become more of a novelty item in my collection.

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            • #7
              Trippshoot
              Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 474

              I was told MOBIL1 red grease for every thing From my M4 Benelli to my STI open pistol my guns love it! Never had a problem.

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              • #8
                savasyn
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 3201

                Can you get that at PepBoys, by chance?

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                • #9
                  mike100
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 2507

                  I don't recall the action type on that M1S90, but regular benelli inertial actions hate, and I mean hate changes to the guns mass by adding or removing weight to/from it. maybe that's why the over lube helps the bolt and action move more freely... just thinking out loud..

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                  • #10
                    Benelli Boy
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 72

                    My friend's M1S90 was doing the same thing at a training class, it was brand new. No cleaning, no rounds through it, basically from the box to the range. The instructor cycled the action, broke out his tool kit, got a tube of tetra and no problems ever since. When I got back home, I lubed it as he did (same as mentioned above). Mine will cycle low recoil target loads. YMMV

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