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  • bballwizard05
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3323

    Legal in Cali?

    Well it seems like it should be legal. I went down the flow-chart. It is shorter than 26" in its shortest configuration but it isn't fire-able in that configuration? Does that still make it illegal? I don't really want it, I would if it were in 20 guage. But just an interesting shotgun, thought I'd ask.


  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    Yes, it is legal.

    The seller thinks it's illegal in CA because of the folding stock.
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    • #3
      bigpappa0095
      Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 186

      the auction does not state why the seller won't ship to ca
      Saying that guns kill people is like blaming a pencil for spelling mistakes.

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      • #4
        plumbum
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2010
        • 5394

        Originally posted by bigpappa0095
        the auction does not state why the seller won't ship to ca
        Oh that is easy: ignorance
        Originally posted by ysr_racer
        Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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        • #5
          Utha Schleigle
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 593

          Yes I want one also. Butt the .410 gauge / 45 long colt chambered guns have been a BOZO NONO for a while. I want The Judge Taurus revolver with a 6" barrel.

          But basically it is a shotgun that is under length - under in overall length and in barrel length.



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          • #6
            prc77
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 2578

            Originally posted by plumbum
            Oh that is easy: ignorance
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            • #7
              Arisaka
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 2153

              I thought CA required 30" oal?
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              • #8
                ke6guj
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                • Nov 2003
                • 23725

                Originally posted by Arisaka
                I thought CA required 30" oal?
                why would you think that?

                CA's SBS and SBR laws require 26" OAL, and case law says that that is measured in its shortest fireable configuration.
                Jack



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                • #9
                  mceod
                  Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 305

                  Originally posted by Arisaka
                  I thought CA required 30" oal?
                  That's for rifles IIRC
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                  • #10
                    -hanko
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                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 14174

                    Originally posted by mceod
                    That's for rifles IIRC


                    That's for what the PRK defines as "assault" rifles...for other rifles as well as shotguns, prk follows federal law with a 26" minimum length. Feds consider that measurement with the stock unfolded, prk with the stock folded.

                    hth

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                    • #11
                      QQQ
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2243

                      gunbroker: no place is more full of unjustified anti-CA asshattery. Avoid it.

                      You never see people refusing sales to Hawaii or Massachusetts or New Jersey, which in some ways and places are more restrictive than most places in CA.

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                      • #12
                        Utha Schleigle
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 593

                        I thought for length in CA for shotguns is - mininum shotgun barrel 18" and overall 28".


                        May not like this thread - take a look.


                        May be over kill but why not. What does barrel measured from the bolt face - mean anyway.
                        Last edited by Utha Schleigle; 07-10-2011, 2:44 PM. Reason: How long is your gun barrel baby??????
                        PLEASE WEAR EYE PROTECT & PROTECTIVE GEAR IN SHOP!!!!!! You can order another part from from manufacturer, but you can't order another finger or eye from your mother & father.

                        ***This DOES NOT constitute GOOD or SANE legal - professional gunsmithing - psychiatric MD - tax - accounting -gardening advice. Please contactact qualified a professional in their repective specialties.*** AWHHH go ahead and mix match specialities that could be funny!!!!!

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                        • #13
                          bballwizard05
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3323

                          Originally posted by QQQ
                          gunbroker: no place is more full of unjustified anti-CA asshattery. Avoid it.

                          You never see people refusing sales to Hawaii or Massachusetts or New Jersey, which in some ways and places are more restrictive than most places in CA.


                          Hard to avoid gunbroker... I have a few local kitchen table FFl's that are VERY reasonable.

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                          • #14
                            mtsul
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 2024

                            Originally posted by ke6guj
                            why would you think that?

                            CA's SBS and SBR laws require 26" OAL, and case law says that that is measured in its shortest fireable configuration.
                            Wait for all guns or just shotguns? I have a AK under folder that is 27 with the muzzle break on it does that mean its legal? with the stock folded? I thought it was OAL of 30+???

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                            • #15
                              Utha Schleigle
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 593

                              I would assume the legal length in a fire-able condition.

                              So if the prossecution LOOSES your muzzel device - it should measure to the minuim length. In the ablove threads I posted ---- I decided to make my centerfire rifle project should be 31" ---- as if the authorities wanted not play fair.


                              31+ inches without muzzel device or recoil padd. CA LEGAL {in my opinion}
                              Last edited by Utha Schleigle; 07-10-2011, 3:16 PM.
                              PLEASE WEAR EYE PROTECT & PROTECTIVE GEAR IN SHOP!!!!!! You can order another part from from manufacturer, but you can't order another finger or eye from your mother & father.

                              ***This DOES NOT constitute GOOD or SANE legal - professional gunsmithing - psychiatric MD - tax - accounting -gardening advice. Please contactact qualified a professional in their repective specialties.*** AWHHH go ahead and mix match specialities that could be funny!!!!!

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