3-Gun Benelli Malfunctions

[quig]

I run a Remington 1187 because I couldn't spend the 1K plus for the Benelli's. All my buddies at 3-gun have the Benelli's, but I can't help to notice that they are the ones to have various stoppages and ammo issues (certain ammo won't work). On the other-hand, my 1187 works all the time without any issue.

I was thinking about upgrading to a Benelli, but now I am not so sure since my 1187 is getting the job done.

Thoughts?

[IPSICK]

I run a Remington 1187 because I couldn't spend the 1K plus for the Benelli's. All my buddies at 3-gun have the Benelli's, but I can't help to notice that they are the ones to have various stoppages and ammo issues (certain ammo won't work). On the other-hand, my 1187 works all the time without any issue.

I was thinking about upgrading to a Benelli, but now I am not so sure since my 1187 is getting the job done.

Thoughts?

Doesn't sound like you need to switch yet. Of course there may be other variables to consider regarding your buddies' malfunctions (rounds through the guns, ammo used, mods).

[3GunFunShooter]

If your Remington is still running fine then I would stick with it. Some have no problems and there are others that do. My 1100CM ran great for 3 1/2 years then it started having problems. I have a shooting friend who had a JP 1187 and had only one jam in 5 years. The main advantage with the Benelli's is they don't get dirty as compared to a gas gun.
The Benelli is easier to load weak had than the Remington. So far my Salient has run
with loads as light as 2 3/4 dram.

[cal3gunner]

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[Sicarius]

If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Gas guns are typically less picky as far as ammo is conserned. Drawback is that they have more moving parts and get dirtier. I haven't had any issues with my benelli except for the Winchester wally world bulk pack. The federal works just fine. With the inertia system, it relies on the recoil to unlock the bolt so the benellis can be sensitive if you add too much weight to the gun or sometimes don't hold it correctly.
Kevin

[quig]

That makes sense. Thanks.

[45R]

Same here, My Salient Benelli M2 runs all the cheap walmart bulk packs. No jams with any kind of shells I've run through it.

How does your Salient differ from a stock Benelli?

[resident-shooter]

More expensive does not mean better or more reliable.

[jermzzzzzzz]

Havent' had my Benelli M3 jam on me yet.

[Excelsior]

I run a Remington 1187 because I couldn't spend the 1K plus for the Benelli's. All my buddies at 3-gun have the Benelli's, but I can't help to notice that they are the ones to have various stoppages and ammo issues (certain ammo won't work). On the other-hand, my 1187 works all the time without any issue.

I was thinking about upgrading to a Benelli, but now I am not so sure since my 1187 is getting the job done.

Thoughts?

While they are good shotguns, I think Benelli's inertia system is way overrated when people begin to suggest they are a must-have for 3Gun competition. They aren't.

Just how many shells do you shoot in a 3Gun match? 75? 90? Maybe 100? That's a leisurely day of practice for a gas-op gun over on the skeet or trap range. It shouldn't be a huge deal to keep your gas-op gun clean -- and you are demonstrating that it isn't.

The same extends to the Benelli Nova Pump. I'm not sure why some people suggest they are "better" than a Remington 870 or Mossberg 500? Possibly easier to load? Certainly not due to their handling -- they feel like pigs compared to either the Rem or Moss....

[Sicarius]

Agreed. Benelli's aren't the end all be all of the 3gun world. There are plenty of 1100s, SX series and spxes that hold their own. The end result is to knock down steel and put some slugs on paper. Benelli just does it differently. If you got a rock solid system that works for you, just use it.
Kevin

[3GunFunShooter]

I ran a 1100CM for 7 years. Did fine for 3 1/2 years then started having issues.
Jams, not ejecting, not feeding. Did ALL the things to get it to run but just got tired of not having a gun that was unreliable. Some people have 1100/1187's run with no problems. Hated cleaning it. Pain in the butt. Looked real hard at the FN and the Mossberg 930. Bought a Salient M2 after shooting a friends. They do kick more than a gas gun, but it is so, so easy to clean. Salients have the bolt lightened, loading gate opened up, lifter welded up, trigger job, barrel tuned, larger safety, larger bolt release, I Bond treatment. No issues with loads a light as 2.75 drams, had to run 3.25 in my 1100. So far the Salient had worked with all loads. No issues with 3 Gun Gear 8 round side saddle and a +2 mounted on the reciever. Fast shooting and light. LOVE MINE. Shooting a 3 gun match is not like shooting trap or skeet on a concrete and grass range.
Put 36 rounds down range in 60 seconds while kicking up dust at a range then dumping it in a barrel to transition to your rifle or pistol, do that 2-3 times and day for a couple of days at a major match. All 3 gun competition shotguns FN, Mossberg 930, Remington 1100/1187, even stock M2's need to be worked on to get ready for 3 gun. The Salient is ready to run from the box.

[prc77]

While they are good shotguns, I think Benelli's inertia system is way overrated when people begin to suggest they are a must-have for 3Gun competition. They aren't.

Just how many shells do you shoot in a 3Gun match? 75? 90? Maybe 100? That's a leisurely day of practice for a gas-op gun over on the skeet or trap range. It shouldn't be a huge deal to keep your gas-op gun clean -- and you are demonstrating that it isn't.

The same extends to the Benelli Nova Pump. I'm not sure why some people suggest they are "better" than a Remington 870 or Mossberg 500? Possibly easier to load? Certainly not due to their handling -- they feel like pigs compared to either the Rem or Moss....

Comparing trap and skeet to a 30-35 round shotgun stage is absurd.
In trap. how long does it take you to go through 35 rounds, and what is the time in between shots.

[Excelsior]

Agreed. Benelli's aren't the end all be all of the 3gun world. There are plenty of 1100s, SX series and spxes that hold their own. The end result is to knock down steel and put some slugs on paper. Benelli just does it differently. If you got a rock solid system that works for you, just use it.
Kevin

Absolutely.

Someone with authority once switched to a Benelli (probably because of a free gun, parts and/or contingency $$$) and made the comment that they enjoy not having to keep their Remington 1100 gas system clean anymore. Soon that becomes "gas guns get so dirty they are not reliable enough for 3Gun shooting" which of course is a bunch of hooey.

I maintain today that Remington or Mossberg could build a 3Gun shotgun based on the Browning long recoil A5 and with the right marketing it would blow benelli out of the water in the 3Gun arena.

[Excelsior]

Comparing trap and skeet to a 30-35 round shotgun stage is absurd.
In trap. how long does it take you to go through 35 rounds, and what is the time in between shots.

Nothing absurd about it. If it wasn't for my neighbors and local law enforcement I could go outside right now and run two boxes of shells (each) through my 1100, through my A-5, my Model 12 and my 870 without a single hick-up. I would guess I could do that with a Mossberg 500/590 and 930 as well.

Been shooting a lot of 35-shotgun-shot stages lately?

People drink the Benelli kool-aid and while they are fine guns they aren't what some of the disciples claim them to be.