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  • glw12345
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 28

    AIP Tactical

    I was looking for a tactical shotgun last year. After reading several posts from JD at AIP Tactical, I gave him a call. He was very knowledgeable and passionate on the subject on the Remington 870. The thing I learn is to "keep it simple". I decided to buy a basic 1 with Speedfeed IV-S stock. I used this at a basic shotgun class. After 70 rounds, the shotguns functioned flawlessly. Unfortunately, my shoulder was sore and bruised the next day. I decided if I was going to shoot this more, I needed to change the stock. With JD's recommendation, I decided to buy from him the Mesa LEO stock with Endine buffer and Limbsaver pad. (Buy once, cry once). I just received the stock today and installed in 15 minutes. Will be taking it to the range soon and will report back.

    It's good to see people care as JD does for his customers, needs, etc. I always see his post here on calguns and appreciate the time he spends answering our questions on the 870. This is why I will always give him my business and hope others do the same. I wish more companies had the work ethic and passion he does.
  • #2
    SparrowHanger
    Banned
    • Mar 2011
    • 347

    Originally posted by glw12345
    I was looking for a tactical shotgun last year. After reading several posts from JD at AIP Tactical, I gave him a call. He was very knowledgeable and passionate on the subject on the Remington 870. The thing I learn is to "keep it simple". I decided to buy a basic 1 with Speedfeed IV-S stock. I used this at a basic shotgun class. After 70 rounds, the shotguns functioned flawlessly. Unfortunately, my shoulder was sore and bruised the next day. I decided if I was going to shoot this more, I needed to change the stock. With JD's recommendation, I decided to buy from him the Mesa LEO stock with Endine buffer and Limbsaver pad. (Buy once, cry once). I just received the stock today and installed in 15 minutes. Will be taking it to the range soon and will report back.

    It's good to see people care as JD does for his customers, needs, etc. I always see his post here on calguns and appreciate the time he spends answering our questions on the 870. This is why I will always give him my business and hope others do the same. I wish more companies had the work ethic and passion he does.
    I appreceiat all the time JD spends helping people that are not his customers not likely will be. If I am ever in the market for a serious tactical weapon, or perhaps someday to have my basic 870 upgraded, perhaps Parkerized, I know where to go.

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    • #3
      MossbergMan
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 1255

      Proper stock length and placement makes a big difference in shoulder wear when shooting alot of 12ga. in classes. I ran SG classes in at a large training facility in NV. for 5 years and found that if the stock was on the short side (length of pull 12" or so) and placed in the "pocket" the shooter could fire large quanities of ammo per day without much more than muscle soreness from lifting and carrying the gun all day. However, miss the pocket (and most pictures of shooters are out of the pocket) and the damage is done. You can shoot perfectly the rest of the day and still feel the mistake. Same is true for the cheek weld and facial discomfort.
      I perfer to preach training over equipment because you never know what you may have to pick up and use. But I also acknowledge not everyone is dedicated to training or physically fit/able bodied. So for those with sensitive shoulders (and if it's truly your shoulder you're not shooting it right) the "recoil reducing" stocks may help. There is also the old stand-by...Past-pads. Strap on recoil pads you wear over (or under) your clothes will dampen felt recoil. But if your OAL stock length is appropriate for your body then recoil reducing stocks shouldn't be necessary. I like the adjustable stocks. You can change LOP for different shooters. Too bad they don't make one of those in a monte carlo style stock (I'm not a fan of pistol grips).
      I know, I know...they are not tacticool.
      Larry Renner
      Plus (+) P Proficiency LLC
      NRA and CA. P.O.S.T certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Tactical Instructor.
      You never rise to the occassion, you only sink to your lowest level of training" Unknown.

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      • #4
        Barbarossa
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 4436

        I tend to put the butt right at the seem of my armpit, but above right on the ball socket of my shoulder joint.

        Issue I have is that The bottom of the butt tends to get biased inwards and rests on the corner of my pectoral at a 15 to 20 degree angle.

        This makes me tilt the bead over to my right, and also tends to bruise me up after a few rounds of trap.

        If I concentrate and shoulder the gun then adjust I'm fine, but if I have to make a snap shot I'll tear myself up a bit.

        I'm 5' 11" and this makes me think that my 870 stock is about a 1/4" or 1/2" too long for me.
        Looking for a 3" Magnum 870 $200-$250ish

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        • #5
          bsg
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2009
          • 25954

          JD is good people; the force is strong with that one.

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          • #6
            rudeboy3
            Member
            • May 2010
            • 364

            I agree, JD is a great guy and has helped me immensely with regards to running my 870.

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            • #7
              BigDogatPlay
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2007
              • 7362

              JD's hat size is going to stretch when he sees this thread... but he is the 870 man. I like to think I know a lot about smoothbores but I've learned a lot from his posts and his site. And I appreciate the hell out of him helping people who aren't even spending money with him. When my 870P needs work, I know where I am sending it.

              No ifs, ands or buts about it.
              -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

              Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

              Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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              • #8
                Thefeeder
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2007
                • 5007

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                Originally posted by Barbarossa
                I tend to put the butt right at the seem of my armpit, but above right on the ball socket of my shoulder joint.

                Issue I have is that The bottom of the butt tends to get biased inwards and rests on the corner of my pectoral at a 15 to 20 degree angle.

                This makes me tilt the bead over to my right, and also tends to bruise me up after a few rounds of trap.

                If I concentrate and shoulder the gun then adjust I'm fine, but if I have to make a snap shot I'll tear myself up a bit.

                I'm 5' 11" and this makes me think that my 870 stock is about a 1/4" or 1/2" too long for me.
                We can fix that......http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=405000

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                • #9
                  Barbarossa
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 4436

                  Originally posted by Thefeeder
                  Late May or Early June sounds fun!
                  Looking for a 3" Magnum 870 $200-$250ish

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                  • #10
                    aippi
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 2302

                    Hey you thread jackers, this is not about how you shoot your shotgun. Go start your own thread about that. This is about how great I am and I want to copy it and send to my ex-wife so she will see I am not the idiot she claimed I was for all those years............. but wait, she won't believe it and just think the guys talking nice about me are idiots to..........But do start your own thread just in case.........
                    JD McGuire, Owner
                    AI&P Tactical
                    Remington Law Enforcement Armorer
                    Mossberg LE Armorer
                    www.aiptactical.com
                    www.tacticalgunslings.com
                    If you're going to a gun fight, take a shotgun. If you can't take a shotgun, don't go.

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                    • #11
                      Bushido-sig
                      Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 230

                      Is this an Aippi roast? I'm in!

                      I have two things to say about JD.

                      1. I've never seen you in person but from your picture on your website, you look like a mean badger! Tough as nails. JD will kick your @SS!

                      2. What is an "aippi?" Calguns should force you to change your handle (deservedly so) to, "Professor 870" because of your knowledge on the 870 you bring to this community and the rock solid products you produce.

                      Folks, if you are thinking about getting a SG, give JD a call before you buy, especially if the 870 is your thing. You'll have a pleasant chat with JD (just don't be rude to him or the badger will come out) and in the mean time he'll figure out which of his products is right for you. He won't try to sell you anything you don't need. He makes a ROBUST product at a reasonable price.

                      Yeah...you can go to Big 5 and get an 870 cheaper but it has nothing on JD's 870s.

                      And JD, your wife is probably mad at ya because you don't take her shooting enough!

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                      • #12
                        5539
                        Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 192

                        +1 on Aippi, JD for short.

                        I went the Big 5 route and a month later, I found JD's Website.

                        By the time I finished modding my 870, I could have bought from him, a Police model Shotgun, for less money.

                        I doubt if he remembers me, but I am the Guy from California, who bought the Factory Trigger Assembly with the Left Hand Safety and HD Springs.

                        With viewing his videos, I can tear down an 870, clean it and then hand it off to my son, to reassemble. Hey it works for me!

                        JD, I have a question. Are the Stocks and the Trigger Group, inter changeable between the 12GA and 20GA 870's?

                        John M.

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                        • #13
                          aippi
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 2302

                          The 12ga and 20 parts can interchange in some of the assemblies but the assemblies can not interchange in the weapons.

                          The older 20ga 870's, now called the "heavy frame" were built on 12 ga receivers so 12ga stocks fit. I think I remmember the trigger plates can also interchange but nothing else. Not very sure as I have not seen a Heavy Frame in a lot of years. Guys who have the old Heavy Frame 12ga shotguns can keep them running with 12 ga parts, however the have very little recourse as they no longer make barrels for them so what they got is what they got and they need to take care of them.
                          JD McGuire, Owner
                          AI&P Tactical
                          Remington Law Enforcement Armorer
                          Mossberg LE Armorer
                          www.aiptactical.com
                          www.tacticalgunslings.com
                          If you're going to a gun fight, take a shotgun. If you can't take a shotgun, don't go.

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