FFL Shotgun lock

[ct126x]

I'm about to purchase a shotgun from a fellow calgunner. My question is, when my 10 day waiting period is up, do I need to pay for a lock from the FFL? Does the shotgun have to be in a soft/hard case when I transport it back home?

This is my first shotgun purchase, I have only had experience purchasing pistols and the FFL only made sure there was a lock in the actual box before I left the store.

[crackerman]

Do you have a safe that meets the CA DOJ rules then you should be able to fill out a safe exemption form.
If you bought a Mossberg it should come with a lock. (okay maybe on this one, just reread as PPT)
If not go to walmart and buy a lock, bring receipt with you when you pick up the gun. Discover you already have a spare lock and return to walmart.

If the store makes you buy their lock, and won't let you return it, DOUCHES! ( We have heard anecdotes here on CGN that some stores MAKE you buy their over priced lock and won't let you return it.)

Transport home (or anywhere) in the any soft case or hard case should be good. While letter of the law legal to have the shotgun just tossed in the back seat since it is not a pistol. I PERSONALLY, would throw it in the trunk/cargo area/hatchback and cover with a blanket to avoid any drama from a cranky uneducated cop or sheep that might see it in your vehicle on the drive home. (When I rode motorcycles you could see everything in a typical car)

[ct126x]

I have a CA DOJ approved safe, but it's small and meant for pistols. I assume I'm not exempt from this? IF the FFL makes me buy one of their locks, how much are we talking about? I know it various, as not all stores are the same, but can you give me a ballpark range?

[crackerman]

I have a CA DOJ approved safe, but it's small and meant for pistols. I assume I'm not exempt from this?

Not sure on this one, nothing on the safe form I just signed Tuesday mentioned safe size in relation to gun size. Smarter people will be along answer this one.

IF the FFL makes me buy one of their locks, how much are we talking about? I know it various, as not all stores are the same, but can you give me a ballpark range?

Depends on this one, I think I remember one of the more DBAG shops it was like $15, but that is memory and may be wrong. A good shop SHOULD NOT do this. The law states that you only have to provide a receipt showing one was bought within 30 days. Just ask them before you do the PPT.

BTW I am not a lawyer and all that I just am really starting to enoy pushing the correct legal info and be anti FUD, but is I accidentally spread some I will be corrected here.

Librarians gunwiki is a good resource.

[ct126x]

Let me bring up another scenario. I just asked my friend, who recently purchased a used shotgun from a store. Upon picking it up, he was not asked to show proof of a lock or asked to buy one from them. They let him take the shotgun without a case or lock. Shotgun was placed inside his trunk and driven home. Is this legal?

[crackerman]

Let me bring up another scenario. I just asked my friend, who recently purchased a used shotgun from a store. Upon picking it up, he was not asked to show proof of a lock or asked to buy one from them. They let him take the shotgun without a case or lock. Shotgun was placed inside his trunk and driven home. Is this legal?

Trunk counts as a locked container for school zones and the like. Personally I put everything in locked cases, but I am uber anal.

As far as the no lock thing. My reading of the gun wiki is that he should be fine, but not sure if the store should have made him bring/take a lock If it were me I would just bring a lock to be sure, but again I am anal.

[ct126x]

Did a quick search and found this. After reading it, it seems that I don't need a lock for it, nor can the FFL make me buy a lock. If I should encounter a situation which the FFL forces me to buy a lock even though it states I don't need one, how should I handle the situation?

[bucktooth7]

Is a trigger lock the only way to lock an O/U short of locking it in a case?

[inbox485]

Do you have a safe that meets the CA DOJ rules then you should be able to fill out a safe exemption form.
If you bought a Mossberg it should come with a lock. (okay maybe on this one, just reread as PPT)
If not go to walmart and buy a lock, bring receipt with you when you pick up the gun. Discover you already have a spare lock and return to walmart.

If the store makes you buy their lock, and won't let you return it, DOUCHES! ( We have heard anecdotes here on CGN that some stores MAKE you buy their over priced lock and won't let you return it.)

Transport home (or anywhere) in the any soft case or hard case should be good. While letter of the law legal to have the shotgun just tossed in the back seat since it is not a pistol. I PERSONALLY, would throw it in the trunk/cargo area/hatchback and cover with a blanket to avoid any drama from a cranky uneducated cop or sheep that might see it in your vehicle on the drive home. (When I rode motorcycles you could see everything in a typical car)

Long guns are still covered under the federal GFSZ.