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  • shawnyteee
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    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2006
    • 366

    pistol grip stock shotguns.

    I thought a shotgun is considered an AW if it has more than one of the features.


    metroshot has a pistol grip stock m1 super90 did some law change?
    v/r,
    shawnyteee
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  • #2
    fireblast713
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 909

    I believe just the pistol grip is considered a evil feature, it doesn't have a retractable stock, bayonet lug, or anything else

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    • #3
      BaronW
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 989

      You can have a pistol grip with a stock on a semi, just not a pistol-grip-only semi-auto.
      I am not a lawyer, the above does not constitute legal advice.

      WTB: Savage 99 SN#507612 (buying back grandpa's rifle)

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      • #4
        blkA4alb
        Moderator Emeritus
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Feb 2006
        • 3576

        Originally posted by fireblast713
        I believe just the pistol grip is considered a evil feature, it doesn't have a retractable stock, bayonet lug, or anything else
        Almost, even if it had a bayonet lug it would be legal. If it had a detachable magazine, or had a pistol grip as well as a collapsable stock then it would be illegal.
        Please, calm down.

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        • #5
          blkA4alb
          Moderator Emeritus
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Feb 2006
          • 3576

          Originally posted by BaronW
          You can have a pistol grip with a stock on a semi, just not a pistol-grip-only semi-auto.
          This is not correct, a semiauto shotgun cannot have a detachable magazine, or it cannot have BOTH a collapsable stock and pistol grip. A pistol gripped only semiauto shotgun would be legal, if it existed.
          Please, calm down.

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          • #6
            BaronW
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 989

            Ah, my mistake. In my defense, the law is ridiculous. :P
            I am not a lawyer, the above does not constitute legal advice.

            WTB: Savage 99 SN#507612 (buying back grandpa's rifle)

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            • #7
              Shane916
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2006
              • 5004

              Originally posted by BaronW
              Ah, my mistake. In my defense, the law is ridiculous. :P
              As are the other 99% of California's gun laws

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              • #8
                bwiese
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Oct 2005
                • 27621

                Originally posted by BaronW
                You can have a pistol grip with a stock on a semi, just not a pistol-grip-only semi-auto.
                Not quite.... please consult 12276.1(A)(6) thru 12276.1(A)(8) and 12020(c) definitions.

                A pistol-grip-only semiauto "shotgun" is not a shotgun - it can't be intended to be fired from the shoulder! (The 12020 definition of shotgun includes requirement that it's 'intended to be fired from shoulder'.)

                In CA, a semiauto shotgun is not an AW and can indeed have a pistol grip if it doesn't have a folding/telescoping stock.

                [Unlike rifle-based AW law, CA shotgun AW law says that, regardless of features, semiauto centerfire shotguns cannot have detachable or drum magazines.]

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                • #9
                  xxG3xx
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1352

                  to bad the laws they are the way they are because that would be awesome to have a semi auto shotty with a pistol grip

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                  • #10
                    randy
                    In Memoriam
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 4642

                    A pistol grip only shotty doesn't have much of a practical use.

                    They are good if you are an entry team and need to blow a door and have it bunjeed to your rig.

                    Other than that please enlighten me on their usefulness or better use than a gun with pistol grip stock or a standard stock.
                    I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

                    When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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                    • #11
                      BaronW
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 989

                      Originally posted by randy
                      They are good if you are an entry team and need to blow a door and have it bunjeed to your rig.

                      Other than that please enlighten me on their usefulness or better use than a gun with pistol grip stock or a standard stock.
                      Tricking "friends" on shooting trips into using it.

                      "Here, look down the sights like this. *BLAM* Why'd you punch yourself, buddy?"
                      I am not a lawyer, the above does not constitute legal advice.

                      WTB: Savage 99 SN#507612 (buying back grandpa's rifle)

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