.410 Bore Shotgun

[Revolverhawk]

I am not planning to buy a .410 bore shotgun in California, most of the .410's I have seen on the internet are illegal in California and I intend to obey the law. I am thinking of buying one after I move to another state. I am just curious about the .45/.410 rumour I heard.

Now, as for my question- I have heard that you can use .45 bullets in a .410 shotgun. How is that possible? I know the .45 and the .410 shotgun shell have the same external case diameter, but how the hell do you fire a .45 caliber bullet through a .41 caliber barrel?

[Pfletch83]

I'm in Kentucky and thinking about moving to California.

My home defense and hunting guns are .410 the wood stocked version would be wearing the 18.5 inch barrel of the crusier model.

The crusier model would wear the 24- inch barrel,the pistol grip would be removed and a buttstock would be installed,the pistol grip would also remain in my home state.

Would I be in some sort of legal trouble if I brought both shotguns along on the move?

[BigDogatPlay]

So long as any shotgun has a barrel length over 18 inches and an overall length over 26 inches... and it's not a banned type in California (i.e. Streetsweeper), it ought to be good to go.

.45LC < - > .410... the base dimensions of the two are nearly identical. Guns that are set up to shoot both have a .45 caliber barrel, not a .410. You can't shoot a .45 LC through a .410 bore, pure and plain.

In a .45 LC gun, the shotshell wad would be, presumably, somewhat sloppy going down the tube, but it's not like it's going to be intended for long distance accuracy.

There are many discussions on this board and others regarding .410 / .45 in California. Long story short, the Taurus Judge is illegal in California, period. Other guns, hard to say without knowing / seeing the gun in question.

[Revolverhawk]

So long as any shotgun has a barrel length over 18 inches and an overall length over 26 inches... and it's not a banned type in California (i.e. Streetsweeper), it ought to be good to go.

.45LC < - > .410... the base dimensions of the two are nearly identical. Guns that are set up to shoot both have a .45 caliber barrel, not a .410. You can't shoot a .45 LC through a .410 bore, pure and plain.

In a .45 LC gun, the shotshell wad would be, presumably, somewhat sloppy going down the tube, but it's not like it's going to be intended for long distance accuracy.

There are many discussions on this board and others regarding .410 / .45 in California. Long story short, the Taurus Judge is illegal in California, period. Other guns, hard to say without knowing / seeing the gun in question.

What about the Rossi Circuit Judge? It is a longgun. Also, wouldn't that mean that .410 slugs are horribly inaccurate?

[metalliman545]

Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't revolving cylinder shotguns illegal as well?

[repubconserv]

Also, wouldn't that mean that .410 slugs are horribly inaccurate?

If you're shooting them out of the 45 barrel then yes, but if you have the 410 barrel, 410 slugs a GTG

What about the Rossi Circuit Judge

Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't revolving cylinder shotguns illegal as well?

Flowchart

Yes Revolving cylinders are illegal

[Revolverhawk]

If you're shooting them out of the 45 barrel then yes, but if you have the 410 barrel, 410 slugs a GTG





Flowchart

Yes Revolving cylinders are illegal

Damn, that's what I thought. I guess I am not getting a .410 shotgun while I still live in this state. Sigh.

Anyways, thanks for the information everybody, I appreciate it.

[BigDogatPlay]

Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't revolving cylinder shotguns illegal as well?

They are.... California considers a shotgun with a cylinder (i.e. Streetsweeper) to be an AW.

[TheKlawMan]

The Circuit Judge raises an interesting question discussed on its own thread if you want to look for it. While a revolving cylinder is illegal in CA on a shotgun, it looks as though CA defines a shotugun as a smooth bore fun and the Circuit Judge has a rifled bore. Apparently the barrel is not interchabneable with a smooth bore sas is the case of many shotguns offering a rifled barrel for slug shooters. So, is it even a shotgun?

Here is something I ran across. The Judge is not illegal because it has a revolving cylllinder but becasue it is short. You don't need to be a shotgun to be a short barreled shotun. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...2181828AAC1RVg That actually concerns the Judge, but isn't the Circuit Judge too long to be considered an SBS and to be considered a shotgun with a revolving cylinder doesn't it then have to have a smooth bore?