knoxx recoil reduction stock

[AngelZ3R0]

What does everyone think about these stocks I have one on my moss 500. I like it i think it takes a lot off the recoil and mussel rise.does anyone have any first hand experience on failures with the stock. The only thing that I dislike is that you cant break down the gun with it on.i think if i "had to take it to war" scenario i would take it off due to simplicity. what do you think.

[santamonica9]

a buddy has one on his 308 bolt action and I was going to get one for my own Mossy 500 but after seeing this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I41htjbudh4

I'm going to go buy a speed feed stock

[Reductio]

a buddy has one on his 308 bolt action and I was going to get one for my own Mossy 500 but after seeing this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I41htjbudh4

I'm going to go buy a speed feed stock

And why not a compstock?

[aippi]

Yes, you can break down the weapon with the stock on. I am going to tell you how to on the 870 but I don't see why it would not work on the mossberg. If anyone knows that it will not work on a mossberg please post in.

with the barrel off and breech assembly out of the weapon remove the trigger plate pins. Push the carrier up so as you push the trigger plate assembly forward the carrier sticks out the receiver. NOw push the trigger plate assembly into the receciver and forward. The trigger guard will clear the hosing of the SpecOps and you the pull the trigger plate out. Install the reverse of this procedure. You do not have to remove the SpecOps stock to remove the trigger plate assembly.

[BigDogatPlay]

And why not a compstock?

Pardon the jump in, but for me it was a matter of fit and comfort. My 1985 vintage 870P had a Knoxx on it when I bought it, came with the OEM wood as well. I never was able to get comfortable with the Knoxx and the springs inside are (to me) just something else that can break. My gun now wears a Speedfeed 4 pistol grip butt stock and a Sure Fire fore end. I am very happy and comfortable with it.

FWIW, my opinion is that if you learn to shoulder and fire the gun properly, you'll be farther ahead on recoil reduction than with a mechanical stock system.

[BoJackUSMC]

I have the Knoxx non recoil spring collapsible butt stock and I like it so far. I never shot with the recoil spring, but I prefer non recoil spring because less movement than spring and I do not mind the recoil of 12 gauge. Also, it is lot cheaper than the spring model.

[L84CABO]

Most people seem to like the stock and the recoil reduction is pretty good...generally I'd say it works as advertised although the actual reduction amount may be a bit less than what they state. Some folks have issues with cheek slap due to what I'll call a bit of a protruding flange design right around where your cheek makes contact with the stock. If you look at a picture, i'm sure you'll be able to figure out what I mean. Some folks argue that if this is a problem for you it's due to improper technique. Others say it can simply be a matter of dimensions and if your body is designed a certain way, you may encounter this problem more than others. YMMV.

As an alternative, I believe Mesa Tactical has a very good recoil reducing stock that doesn't seem to have the protrusion. Reviews seem very good on it although I don't have any personal experience. It is quite a bit more expensive too at last check.

[Creampuff]

There are two things I don't like about it:
1. I had an oversize VangComp safety on it. The entire assembly rides back into the KnoxOp Stock, so had I left the oversize tang on, it would have broken right off.

2. My 870 had the ejection issue where steel casing would expand and get locked into the chamber. Before the KnoxxOp I would take the butt of the stock and ram it into the ground to eject the shell. With the KnoxxOp, it operates as it should, and bounces right back, leaving with a case still stuck in the chamber. I do worry in a emergency situation if I had a shell jam up, I would have a shotgun out of operation.

[model63]

I have a Compstock (w/o the pistol grip) on my 870 Tactical and am generally a fan versus the regular stock from Remington...it sits by my bedside.

From my experience, it eats up most 2-3/4 1150-1400 FPS buck or lite recoil slugs almost to the point that you can't feel them and it allows you to stay on target for follow ups. My wife likes it and will shoot another few rounds now if that is any indication of its benefit. I don't know how much it actually counteracts muzzle rise, but if you want to shoot all day the light stuff you can and won't get too much of a bruise. Having said that once I move away from the lighter stuff and into higher velocity 3" Brenneke Black Magic type things, you still can feel the kick, albeit not as much in the shoulder... but that recoil goes somewhere... and like the other post says, the laws of physics dictate that the recoil goes somewhere... and it may find its way up under your eye socket. The first time it got me good, I felt it the rest of the day after I came home from the range. I think it must bottom out and then dissipate the recoil perpendicular to the spring and wobbles creating that smack. It usually involved the rear of my hand hitting the bottom of my glasses which some would argue causes us to be a bit shy about sighting in well and thus changing how we shoot which also isn't a good thing. Not a must have item, but it has it's purposes.

[Shady]

watch the nutnfancy video about it
hes got some good points

[BigDogatPlay]

It usually involved the rear of my hand hitting the bottom of my glasses which some would argue causes us to be a bit shy about sighting in well and thus changing how we shoot which also isn't a good thing.

You might try not wrapping your thumb over the top, if you are.

[40cal.]

I installed a Knox stock and took it off after a Tactical Shotgun class. After a 200 rounds just didn't like it anymore, awkward to manipulate into diff. positions quickly. The check slap is less if the stock is extended a little. If I don't sell it pretty soon it'll go in the dumpster, don't want to clutter up my shop with a bunch of junk.

[TheKlawMan]

Nut N Fancy

Most people seem to like the stock and the recoil reduction is pretty good...generally I'd say it works as advertised although the actual reduction amount may be a bit less than what they state. Some folks have issues with cheek slap due to what I'll call a bit of a protruding flange design right around where your cheek makes contact with the stock. If you look at a picture, i'm sure you'll be able to figure out what I mean. Some folks argue that if this is a problem for you it's due to improper technique. Others say it can simply be a matter of dimensions and if your body is designed a certain way, you may encounter this problem more than others. YMMV.

As an alternative, I believe Mesa Tactical has a very good recoil reducing stock that doesn't seem to have the protrusion. Reviews seem very good on it although I don't have any personal experience. It is quite a bit more expensive too at last check.

Google Nut N Fancy Knox Video which is on youtube. They really panned the Knox stock and talk about the cheek slap.

[TheKlawMan]

I have a Compstock (w/o the pistol grip) on my 870 Tactical and am generally a fan versus the regular stock from Remington...it sits by my bedside.

From my experience, it eats up most 2-3/4 1150-1400 FPS buck or lite recoil slugs almost to the point that you can't feel them and it allows you to stay on target for follow ups. My wife likes it and will shoot another few rounds now if that is any indication of its benefit. I don't know how much it actually counteracts muzzle rise, but if you want to shoot all day the light stuff you can and won't get too much of a bruise. Having said that once I move away from the lighter stuff and into higher velocity 3" Brenneke Black Magic type things, you still can feel the kick, albeit not as much in the shoulder... but that recoil goes somewhere... and like the other post says, the laws of physics dictate that the recoil goes somewhere... and it may find its way up under your eye socket. The first time it got me good, I felt it the rest of the day after I came home from the range. I think it must bottom out and then dissipate the recoil perpendicular to the spring and wobbles creating that smack. It usually involved the rear of my hand hitting the bottom of my glasses which some would argue causes us to be a bit shy about sighting in well and thus changing how we shoot which also isn't a good thing. Not a must have item, but it has it's purposes.

I don't know about the buck shot, but I am recoil sensitive and the additioin of a Remington SuperCell recoil pad for $20 really helped, along with learning to shoot properly. Like it says in one of the Nut N Fancy videos on the net, shoot some of the heavy stuff so you are ready for it if you have to use it, but practice with the light stuff and just use a regular stock. If you get beat up by the mule, should the **** hit the fan, adrenalin will get you throught th chrisis and you will reocover from getting beat up by the recoil.

[C.W.M.V.]

I do not care for it. I have one on my 500 and Id like to remove/sell it, but I cant find the gd damned allen wrench that came with it! It was lost during a recent move. So for now, Im stuck with it.
Eventually Id like to get the Hogue overmolded stock for it.