KSG trigger reset issue @ SHOT show update.

[Digital_Boy]

Got the AR-15.com newsletter, and in the SHOT show round up they indicated they had asked Kel-Tec about the trigger not resetting, and were told it would be rectified in the production model.

Relevant copy/paste from the newsletter:

A cross bolt style safety blocks the sear, and the pump release lever is located in front of the trigger guard. There were some issues with the prototypes on display at the SHOT show with trigger reset, but Kel-Tec has advised us that this is a prototype issue and the production models will not have this problem.

[Toolbox X]

Excellent news.

[aippi]

Another reason not to be the crash dummy on any new model of anything. Let others buy them and find all the issues. Here is a weapon not even in production and the manufacturer had to answer issues about it by stating it is a proto type issue and will not be a problem with the production models. That is a serious issue. Why would they not correct it in the prototype before they introduced the weapon?????? Maybe because they want it introduced before the shot show and cause all this internet buzz about an untested design of an untested weapon. More about marketing then having a safe product ready to go.

Makes one wonder what other issues are there and will surface when it is in the hands of the public and getting thousands of rounds down range. Always, always wait and let others find out. This way you don't get stuck with a lemon. Some of the best weapons out there today had issues in the first few models so I am not saying this one will or will not but this trigger issue on the proto type is a bad start.

[mmrx2]

Another reason not to be the crash dummy on any new model of anything. Let others buy them and find all the issues. Here is a weapon not even in production and the manufacturer had to answer issues about it by stating it is a proto type issue and will not be a problem with the production models. That is a serious issue. Why would they not correct it in the prototype before they introduced the weapon?????? Maybe because they want it introduced before the shot show and cause all this internet buzz about an untested design of an untested weapon. More about marketing then having a safe product ready to go.

Makes one wonder what other issues are there and will surface when it is in the hands of the public and getting thousands of rounds down range. Always, always wait and let others find out. This way you don't get stuck with a lemon. Some of the best weapons out there today had issues in the first few models so I am not saying this one will or will not but this trigger issue on the proto type is a bad start.

Yeah I agree. Especially with the guns action so close to your face. I'd rather wait it out and let them work all the bugs out. With all the people that are talking about putting deposits down already, I'm not so sure it's a good idea yet, The release date is not definite, They may not be able to work out all the problems with the prototype by then.

[FatalKitty]

show room displays are not often production models.
they were clear about the release time - 3rd quarter, that's a long time to still be producing something.

What I find comforting is that KelTec knows about the issue and it has already been corrected for production models.

i could care less if a show room prototype even functions, as I will not be buying a prototype

[Sicarius]

A lot of times, companies will rush a product to get it to a show of this caliber. I wouldn't doubt that this was the case for Keltec. Espeically since all he internet buzz about the latest hottest shotgun on the market... They just want to put something in a person's grubby hands.
Kevin

[PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE]

Keltec had posted a vid on YouTube demonstrating KSG, but they were only firing 3 or 4 rounds total, so I asked why are you guys only shooting 3 or 4 rounds at a time because it makes it look like you're having some sort of cycling issues because you're not dumping the full 14 rounds. His response was that it was just a quick video they put out and was never intended to be a demo vid, but they have no issues with it.

[70extreme]

Another reason not to be the crash dummy on any new model of anything. Let others buy them and find all the issues. Here is a weapon not even in production and the manufacturer had to answer issues about it by stating it is a proto type issue and will not be a problem with the production models. That is a serious issue. Why would they not correct it in the prototype before they introduced the weapon?????? Maybe because they want it introduced before the shot show and cause all this internet buzz about an untested design of an untested weapon. More about marketing then having a safe product ready to go.

Makes one wonder what other issues are there and will surface when it is in the hands of the public and getting thousands of rounds down range. Always, always wait and let others find out. This way you don't get stuck with a lemon. Some of the best weapons out there today had issues in the first few models so I am not saying this one will or will not but this trigger issue on the proto type is a bad start.

These are the wisest words I have read today.

[baz152]

While i agree with you all about not being the test dummy on anything I would not get so nutted up about the trigger reset issue. Kel tec is aware of the problem and working on it in a quick manner. A lot of vehicles which make it to auto shows do not even run.

[xenophobe]

Another reason not to be the crash dummy on any new model of anything. Let others buy them and find all the issues. Here is a weapon not even in production and the manufacturer had to answer issues about it by stating it is a proto type issue and will not be a problem with the production models. That is a serious issue. Why would they not correct it in the prototype before they introduced the weapon?????? Maybe because they want it introduced before the shot show and cause all this internet buzz about an untested design of an untested weapon. More about marketing then having a safe product ready to go.

Makes one wonder what other issues are there and will surface when it is in the hands of the public and getting thousands of rounds down range. Always, always wait and let others find out. This way you don't get stuck with a lemon. Some of the best weapons out there today had issues in the first few models so I am not saying this one will or will not but this trigger issue on the proto type is a bad start.

I could also look at it from the other angle...

It's not a production unit and searching for flaws or issues on a prototype or pre-production unit shouldn't really be taken too seriously. It's not final and if there are known issues they're probably already being worked on.

When you review something, you always use production samples... unless there aren't any. Reviewing a pre-production unit or a prototype isn't actually a review, it's a preview.

And just like I said in the Kel-Tec thread when this 'news' was revealed... it's not an issue because it's not final and if Kel-Tec doesn't do something about it, a 3rd party manufacturer will. And I was right.

You're also quite pessimistic about any product that isn't yours.

[TheKlawMan]

What I find comforting is that KelTec knows about the issue and it has already been corrected for production models.

They said it WILL BE RECIFIED in production models. They did not say that it has ALREADY BEEN RECIFIED