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  • #16
    PatriotnMore
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2007
    • 7068

    when you are trying for 25/25 picking your pull is a huge advantage. The frustrating part for me when shooting Skeet with a top Skeet person is, the amount of time the spend in the pre-shoot routine, it really makes for a long skeet session.
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    • #17
      vormav
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 366

      I think its just meant to be a signal that the shooter is ready, and they can let go the clay at any time. My friends and I always mix it up with eachother by occasionally throwing one out by hand instead of with the machine, so it wobbles down about 5-7 yards in front of you, challenging to hit with a choke meant for hitting the far away ones

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      • #18
        Casual_Shooter
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        • Sep 2006
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        I'm still trying to figure out how to get the damn birds to stay in the thrower long enough for me to pull the cord.
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        • #19
          CSACANNONEER
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          • Dec 2006
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          I'm not sure why you called it "garbage" just because you don't understand it. Have you bothered to google it and/or ask any of the old timers where you've been shooting?
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          • #20
            ScottB
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 1431

            Originally posted by Bjkearns
            Ive also heard guys when doing skeet say something like hee and haw

            I guess it was to signal the left or right house?
            The order of shots is predetermined by the rules.

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            • #21
              ScottB
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 1431

              Originally posted by PatriotnMore
              when you are trying for 25/25 picking your pull is a huge advantage. The frustrating part for me when shooting Skeet with a top Skeet person is, the amount of time the spend in the pre-shoot routine, it really makes for a long skeet session.
              Part of the pullers job is to keep things moving without being an a-hole. Part of the shooters' job is to understand that and have their act together and cooperate without being a-holes. That's the difference between a 20 minute round and a 45 minute round

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              • #22
                BigDogatPlay
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2007
                • 7362

                When working with voice calls the shooter has to say something to get the machine to launch the clay. Hard consonant sounds work best on the voice calls so you hear a lot of "yep" and "up" from the upper tier shooters where I go. Given the mechanics involved many of the best shooters have their call worked in as part of the rhythm of their pre-shot routine.

                Birds launched on a delay or without calling for them requires a puller working with a remote and an agreement by the squad on how they want it to go. And it can indeed be a lot more challenging.
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                • #23
                  Barbarossa
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 4436

                  Bonus round: Say "pull" with no ammo in the gun, but a shell in your hand. Load and fire.
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                  • #24
                    Databyter
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1100

                    Originally posted by Bagelthief
                    I'm just getting into the world of shot gunning. Wish I would have done it years ago, but late is better then never.

                    Shooting clay birds is some of the most fun I've ever had behind a gun, but when ever I see videos of other people doing it (even professionals and Olympians), they always say "Pull!" to get the bird going.

                    Now if I'm not mistaken, clays are meant to represent real birds that we are "hunting."

                    I've never been on a real bird hunt, but I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the birds don't wait for your permission to take flight so you can shoot them.

                    Wouldn't the sport be more realistic and challenging if the clays were random instead of signaled?

                    /rant
                    It would be kind of pointless for clays to spray out when you weren't even loaded or were changing your eyeglasses. They aren't cheap enough to waste.

                    The "pull" command simply tells the clay shooter that you are ready. At that point if you want it to be random go for it tell your clay springer to mix it up..

                    There is also a safety reason in that when you say pull everyone knows that some shooting is going to happen, so they can watch how you do, and not walk in front of you, or the clay shooter.

                    I see your point, but you're being sorta picky about something that really doesn't matter in my opinion.

                    Practice makes perfect, and whether you know when it's going to happen or not, that practice is going to apply to your shooting, whether you're ready or not.

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                    • #25
                      darkjedi351
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 940

                      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                      I'm not sure why you called it "garbage" just because you don't understand it. Have you bothered to google it and/or ask any of the old timers where you've been shooting?
                      +1. learn the history before bad mouthing it!
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                      • #26
                        Bagelthief
                        Banned
                        • May 2009
                        • 319

                        The history is cool...But that's exactly what it should remain in my opinion. Were done with levers and live rope traps. Unless its a voice operated machine, then I think a true master sportsman would want the difficulty upped as much as possible. Separate the pros from the players.

                        I agree with what this guys says.

                        Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
                        Birds launched on a delay or without calling for them requires a puller working with a remote and an agreement by the squad on how they want it to go. And it can indeed be a lot more challenging.


                        You can load into the box, give a ready signal, and have the rest be random. Of course you need a puller that is competent enough to see when your reloading or blatantly not ready; but that shouldn't be too much to manage. Basically, a semi-raised barrel and eyes pointed skyward should be all the signal he needs.

                        That's how I'm going to learn.

                        PS: I apologize for calling it garbage, I didn't mean to insult anyone.

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                        • #27
                          shrap
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 93

                          You're free to shoot clays any way you want to, but don't disparage people just because they are playing by the official rules.

                          If you want more of a challenge try sporting clays - and tell the puller that you don't want to know where the birds are coming from. Good luck!

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                          • #28
                            ysr_racer
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                            • Mar 2006
                            • 12014

                            So...Whats with all this "TACTICOOL!" garbage?

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                            • #29
                              mjsweims
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 807

                              As someone else said it's just a game. There are some trap like FITASC where you start with your gun down and the pull is random, but after you're ready. In bunker you start with an unmounted gun.
                              You're not trying to duplicate any hunting situations, you're just playing a game with certain rules. If you don't like the game or the rules it's simple, don't participate.
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                              • #30
                                IntoForever
                                CGSSA Associate
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 3891

                                The place where I shoot is voice activated so I usually curse wildly, just in case I miss. Thing doesn't like the F word though, ignores me.
                                With all this "gun control" talk, I've not heard one politician say how they plan on taking guns from criminals, just law abiding Citizens.

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