Adding weight to an 870

[TheKlawMan]

I want to temporarily increase the mass of my short barrel synthetic 870 as I am rather sensitive to recoil. Ii do not want to modify the stock until I have better input on what kind of an LOP I should have. (I only began shooting this month and I am working on properly mounting the gun.)

As I currently have just an 18" barrel, I expect the addition of a 28 will affect felt recoil. Anyway, you see why any weight addition should be temporary.

For the time being, I don't wish to consider replacing the synthetics with wood.

Since I have a two inch factory magazine extenion, I can easily add weight at the muzzle end of the extension. One way explained to me is by taking spent hulls and filling them with shot and inserting one or two of them into the magazine on top of the spring and before screwing down the extension tube.

I don't have reloading equipment and do not wish to buy a bundh of shot just to make up a couple of weigths. Two questions about how I might do this.

1. Is it very dangerous to open a live shell from the crimped end so as to empty the shot out. I imagine I would need to empty 7 or 8 to get a sufficient amount of pellets.

2. After filling the spent hulls, how do I seal them. Can I take a piece of plastic cut to fit, apply some glue, and fold the previoulsly crimped material over?

I also want to add an equivalent amount of weight inside the hollow stock. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to do this? My idea is to take a piece of steel cut to fit the hollow and drill a hole in it to allow the long stock to receiver scew to pass though it. The steel could be no thicker than the current washer. If necessary to increase its weight, say it is only as thick as to add 4 ounces and I wanted to add 10, I can secure other plate to it with bolts and nuts through points to be drilled so as to keep the butt balaced from side to side.

I have seen some butt pads with shims similar in a manner, but don't want to mess with a new pad until working out the LOP.

Thanks for any suggestions.

[aippi]

Yes, do not go down this road with this weapon. Things like this are for balance on shotguns for wing shooting. Not recoil reduction. Get a limbsaver pad and learn the techniques the guys gave you on your other post. Start with target loads and then move to low recoil stuff. Practice and practice more. It will come to you. Messing with your weapon like you are planning to do can not end well.

[mydogsmonkey]

if you wanna add weight, i'd suggest a side saddle, adds a good amount of weight and it actually does something for you, i just took mine off, makes a hell of a difference

[TheKlawMan]

Yes, do not go down this road with this weapon. Things like this are for balance on shotguns for wing shooting. Not recoil reduction. Get a limbsaver pad and learn the techniques the guys gave you on your other post. Start with target loads and then move to low recoil stuff. Practice and practice more. It will come to you. Messing with your weapon like you are planning to do can not end well.

Wing shooter's, and a great bunch of guys that they are, indeed suggested that as well as a limbsaver, reduded recoil ammo, and learning to properly shoot. I will do as you advise without question (which is rare for me who argues with everyone). BTW, the first time out I did 50 standard target loads. The second time, about a week later, I meant to shoot 25 target loads and try one box of low recoil. I ****ed up and didn't realilze I accidently bought a box of game loads. Nothing like buckshot, but it kicked my ***. I waited 4 days and even as my shoulder was still pretty sore I shot a box of the Winchchester lite recoil, low noise 26 gram stuff and barely felt it. (But it did seem to be more difficult to clean with my AIPPI bore brush.) What do you think about the Remington pads made by Limbsaver? Thanks, AIPPI.

[TheKlawMan]

if you wanna add weight, i'd suggest a side saddle, adds a good amount of weight and it actually does something for you, i just took mine off, makes a hell of a difference

Thanks for the suggestion. It is a good one, especially as the gun was purchased for HD, but for now I don't want anything hanging on the gun. Trying to do as AIPPI and others have suggested an KISS.

I also like the idea of spending $$$ on shooting, and perhaps some lessons, than on accessories.

[darkwater]

I bought one of these: http://shootersfriend.com/
I never tried a Limbsaver, so don't know how they compare.

[AAShooter]

Lots on trap shooters use these . . . the older style used mercury.

http://www.100straight.com/home.htm

[bucktooth7]

I put the Remington Super Cell recoil pad on my 870 and I can shoot trap and skeet all day long with no discomfort. Cabella's and Midway USA both carry it and it just has a couple of screws to install it in the existing holes. $19.95 plus shipping.

[FatalKitty]

learning some proper shouldering will fix this

I shoot 2-3 times a week, buck and slug - no problem with a bruised shoulder. I use a speedfeed tac-IVs with a swat plate as I am pretty short and like the 12" LOP
if you're holding it properly, you will feel the shotgun "push" into your shoulder, rather than slamming into it.

[jeff762]

since you are using it for home defence and more than likely using oo buck why not try using remington "law enforcement reduced recoil" rounds?

[aippi]

Kitty, you are a better man then me as I tried the SWAT plate on my SF IV-S and my whimp A** only fired it one time and put the R3 back on.

Since the R3 has been discontinued I will be featuring the Super Cell so I test it. It works and is $19 less then the R3. I am stubborn and set in my ways and most likely imagined the R3 working better so I had others shoot both and they say "I am full of Sh**". Well they did not say it like that as I am the Boss but that is what they ment. So yes to the Super Cell.

And yes to low recoil as the biggest benifit of that type of load is not the reduction per say in recoil, but the reduction in muzzel flip so you get back on target faster.