knoxx spec ops cheek slap

[coltn46920]

I have a knoxx spec ops recoil reducing stock on my maverick 88 and it slaps my cheek every time I fire it. I'm wondering if putting some sort of cheek rest on would abolish the cheek slap? This is what I have in mind.

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/PowerPak-Modular-Cheek-Piece,212,167.htm

[hcbr]

What did the stock say to the face? SLAP! lol I had to do it! haha ...

but in all out seriousness, I had a friend with a similar issue, and it was due to a gap and not holding it right, so he adjusted and has done fine. I've heard that in some cases, you can use the raiser/rest on the stock it should also help

[coltn46920]

What did the stock say to the face? SLAP! lol I had to do it! haha ...

but in all out seriousness, I had a friend with a similar issue, and it was due to a gap and not holding it right, so he adjusted and has done fine. I've heard that in some cases, you can use the raiser/rest on the stock it should also help

What gap between the receiver and the stock?

[Vette6T8]

Initially had this same problem: Solved it by adjusting the stock length of pull out by one space. No more slap.

[BigDogatPlay]

Experiment with length of pull as noted above, you might need a bit more. Mount the butt to your shoulder higher up in the pocket, not down on the deltoid. Don't drop your face to the stock, bring the stock up to your face.

If you still can't get comfortable, look into a riser or cheek pad on top of the stock to make up the difference.

FWIW... I've never been able to get comfortable with a Knoxx stock, recoil reducer or NRS.

[hcbr]

What gap between the receiver and the stock?

sorry not to clarify , the gap between his face and the stock, he was not position his cheek very well , and one of the trap guys/skeet shooters where we normally shoot helped him adjust, and ditto what bigdog said, cuz that's what he told him not to drop down to his gun, but the gun needs to level with him and his face

[tacticalcity]

I tried various lengths. For range work, it wasn't an issue. But when you're running and gunning, and ducking behind things, and laying on your side, and taking shots from all kinds of goofy positions you don't have the luxury of getting an ideal weld no matter how you adjust it, so for that type of shooting it will eventually happen again and right when you least expect it and can least afford it. For a lot of shooters, that will never be an issue. For those of us who enjoy taking tactical type courses, or who do it for a living...it is an issue.

[jumpthestack]

"Don't drop your face to the stock, bring the stock up to your face."
This. Keep your head totally straight upright and bring the gun up, without allowing your head to cant sideways at all. Now pull back sharply on the gun, so the spring in the stock compresses. It shouldn't hurt. Now mount it incorrectly by tilting your head down on the stock. Pull back sharply. It will hurt.

[negolien]

Try a google search. I saw a thread on this somewhere that had a fix but can't remember where sorry. You can get a knoxx pack for the weapon also which may or may not help. I can't offer an opinion on them as I haven't used one.

[maxicon]

The Powerpak may help. When I googled reviews a while back, some people weren't very happy with them, especially if they wanted to take them off again, but I never got one to try.

The problem with the SpecOps and cheek weld is that it has very little drop (like an AR collapsible stock), due to the inline shock reducer technology. On my gun (Winchester 1300 Defender), this means that it shoots high if I get a good shoulder mount and sight with the front bead.

In order to line up the bead correctly along the barrel, you have to either scrunch your head down or raise the stock up on your shoulder, like many people do with ARs. This leads to either cheek slap or a less stable shoulder mount, though with less pain than a non recoil reducing stock would give if you mounted it up high on your shoulder.

It's a shame. I like the recoil reduction a lot, but it's tough to justify the loss of pointability for me.

So, the Powerpak will help with the cheek weld, but not with the pointability. If yours points and aims well with the higher cheek weld, the Powerpak should work.

[aippi]

Go to www.aiptactical.com and click on the red link "Breaking in the 870" and on that page I go into how to shoot the SpecOps. Anyone having a problem with cheek slap is not shooting it correctly. Follow what I say on that page and your problem is over.

[caldude]

I had the same cheek slap issue, but I've fixed it. I put a Power Pak on, but used the low riser. Plus I installed Ghost Ring Sights, which probably helped more because now I didn't have to press my cheek into the stock to see a bead. But I was also shooting it wrong with the bead - I was lowering my head to the stock, not raising the stock to my face.

[maxicon]

Go to www.aiptactical.com and click on the red link "Breaking in the 870" and on that page I go into how to shoot the SpecOps. Anyone having a problem with cheek slap is not shooting it correctly. Follow what I say on that page and your problem is over.

This works for me - putting the stock up higher on my shoulder makes the gun point better.

My main problem with this is that I grew up shooting traditionally stocked guns, and I automatically put the stock square on the shoulder, especially with shotguns.

I know if I practiced enough mounting it up high it would become automatic, but I can't really get to the range weekly like I used to. In the meantime, I'm shooting a variety of long guns, and most of them aim best with a traditional shoulder mount, so that breaks the muscle memory some.

This may not be a problem for people who shoot ARs a lot, as it's common to put the stock up high like that.

This is just me, though, and may work out well for other people, especially if you don't trade guns around a lot on range trips. Maybe I have too many...

[calishine]

Another issue I had with that stock is related to the small hole on top of that stock, put your face to it, and it will rip off a small piece. Not so much an issue at the range, but can happen when manipulating and shooting the weapon in uncommon positions like in a class for example.

[CDMJ]

I've never been able to get comfortable with a Knoxx stock, recoil reducer or NRS.

This has always been my problem. I ran a Spec-ops stock years ago though a course and ended up looking like someone beat me with a stick. I took it off that gun and haven't installed it since.

I tried various lengths. For range work, it wasn't an issue. But when you're running and gunning, and ducking behind things, and laying on your side, and taking shots from all kinds of goofy positions you don't have the luxury of getting an ideal weld no matter how you adjust it, so for that type of shooting it will eventually happen again and right when you least expect it and can least afford it. For a lot of shooters, that will never be an issue. For those of us who enjoy taking tactical type courses, or who do it for a living...it is an issue.

+1 This..

This is why I removed my Spec-ops stock. I am sure I could have found a way around the cheek slap issue by adjusting my head, shoulders, the stock LOP or any number of other suggestions that are floating around out there but at the end of the day I don't always shoot in a box. When you start going though tactical courses the ability to hold your head in just the right spot is just not possible. The only solution for me was to remove the Spec-Ops stock all together. I run Speedfeed stocks only. If recoil is an issue I will switch to low-recoil rounds.