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  • ak47762
    Banned
    • Jul 2009
    • 157

    Shotgun legality

    What is the age you have to be in order to own a pistol gripped only shotgun?

    I know you have the standard 18 for all long guns but for a single shot/lever/pump shot was wondering...

    Couldnt find any info on it
  • #2
    JeffM
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 4359

    Originally posted by ak47762
    What is the age you have to be in order to own a pistol gripped only shotgun?

    I know you have the standard 18 for all long guns but for a single shot/lever/pump shot was wondering...

    Couldnt find any info on it
    21 for all long guns. 18 and up for rifles and shotguns. Rifles and shotguns have stocks by definition. You will need to be 21 to purchase a pistol-grip only firearm regardless of the mechanism it uses to fire or the types of cartridges it fires.

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    • #3
      ak47762
      Banned
      • Jul 2009
      • 157

      Can you link me to some legislation piece? I just read through the whole CA Firearms guide on the DOJ website and it wouldnt be a pistol by definitoin:

      Its barrel must be longer than 16 inches.

      Aslong as it is over 18" barrel length and 26 overall length then it would be considered a rifle.

      And it is not semi auto either so that factors out it being an assualt weapon...

      Edit another question would be, is it legal for me to put a pistol grip only on a shotgun that is lever action and is longer than 26 inches.

      Personally i think its FUDD, turners doesn't sell them to anyone under 21.... but yet i cannot find any legislation which says so.

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      • #4
        JeffM
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 4359

        It's in the US Code.

        other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or
        rifle, to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable
        cause to believe is less than twenty-one years of age;
        Bold= the purchaser of any firearm other than shotguns or rifles must be 21 years or older.

        intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of an explosive to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger.
        (7) The term “rifle” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of an explosive to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.
        Bold= must have stock. Pistol grip only = not intended to be fired from the shoulder.

        So a pistol-grip only firearm cannot be a rifle or shotgun and cannot be sold to anyone under 21 by a dealer.
        Last edited by JeffM; 08-23-2010, 4:30 AM.

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        • #5
          ak47762
          Banned
          • Jul 2009
          • 157

          Alright thanks for the information, really appreciate it!

          So would I then legally be allowed to purchase a pistol grip and make my own I am 18 yrs old.

          Thanks again man!

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          • #6
            JeffM
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 4359

            Originally posted by ak47762
            Alright thanks for the information, really appreciate it!

            So would I then legally be allowed to purchase a pistol grip and make my own I am 18 yrs old.

            Thanks again man!
            You should be able to do that. It just can't be sold to you that way.

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            • #7
              PEZHEAD265
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 980

              I'm not a lawyer but if it can't be sold to him[under 21] he shouldn't have it,I'm not to sure he can make it and it would be legal my opinion is it is illegal.

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              • #8
                CSACANNONEER
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Dec 2006
                • 44094

                Originally posted by ak47762
                Alright thanks for the information, really appreciate it!

                So would I then legally be allowed to purchase a pistol grip and make my own I am 18 yrs old.

                Thanks again man!
                Let me give you a bit of advise. A PG only shotgun is pretty much useless. You can't really aim it and the recoil would be a beacth on your hand. IMHO 99% of the PG only SGs out there tell me that the owner is either new to firearms, a total mall ninja or just compensating for a super small apendage. So, go ahead and try it but, do not get rid of the stock that comes on it. You will want to put it back on if you ever intend to use the gun in any practical capacity.

                Originally posted by PEZHEAD265
                I'm not a lawyer but if it can't be sold to him[under 21] he shouldn't have it,I'm not to sure he can make it and it would be legal my opinion is it is illegal.
                Nope. He can legally own it just not buy it. Sort of like how he can legally own a handgun at 18 but, he can not buy one until he is 21.
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                • #9
                  WTSGDYBBR
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 2159

                  Here is the Shotgun flow chart on what you can and cannot do.
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                  • #10
                    ak47762
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 157

                    Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                    Let me give you a bit of advise. A PG only shotgun is pretty much useless. You can't really aim it and the recoil would be a beacth on your hand. IMHO 99% of the PG only SGs out there tell me that the owner is either new to firearms, a total mall ninja or just compensating for a super small apendage. So, go ahead and try it but, do not get rid of the stock that comes on it. You will want to put it back on if you ever intend to use the gun in any practical capacity.



                    Nope. He can legally own it just not buy it. Sort of like how he can legally own a handgun at 18 but, he can not buy one until he is 21.
                    yeah ill admit, it it just for ****s and giggles you know how movies get to ya

                    Will put some wood on it and definitely keep the stock, but get a PG possibly for those :apocalyptic movie nights, like the book of eli

                    Thanks again, I really appreciate all the help!

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                    • #11
                      CSACANNONEER
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 44094

                      Originally posted by ak47762
                      yeah ill admit, it it just for ****s and giggles you know how movies get to ya

                      Will put some wood on it and definitely keep the stock, but get a PG possibly for those :apocalyptic movie nights, like the book of eli

                      Thanks again, I really appreciate all the help!
                      Cool, at least you are being realistic about it.
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