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  • West545
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 74

    shorter than 18"?

    Is it legal to have a shot gun barrel under 18" is the guns overall length is still over 26"?
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    69Mach1
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    • Jan 2006
    • 15032

    No.
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    • #3
      Bobula
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2007
      • 9386

      /thread
      Originally posted by Kestryll
      Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

      Fascist pig....

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      • #4
        Bobula
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2007
        • 9386

        Meh, I jumped the gun. Technically yes, but only via AOW
        Originally posted by Kestryll
        Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

        Fascist pig....

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        • #5
          West545
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 74

          I'm going to take the highroad and go with what Mach said.

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          • #6
            -hanko
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2002
            • 14174

            Originally posted by West545
            Is it legal to have a shot gun barrel under 18" is the guns overall length is still over 26"?
            I'd explain the Google concept, but you might consider that sarcastic...

            From the US Code (on www.atf.gov)...

            "(5) The term "shotgun" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made
            or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of an explosive to fire
            through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for
            each single pull of the trigger.

            (6) The term "short-barreled shotgun" means a shotgun having one or
            more barrels less than eighteen inches in length and any weapon made from a shotgun (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches"

            You're asking about a shotgun with buttstock...with a barrel <26", you've created a "short barreled shotgun, aka 'sbs'"...a no-no of the felony grade in the PRK.

            With a number of restrictions, you can create a pistol-gripped sg with a barel <18", but that's not what you asked about...search AOW here or on google.

            hth

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            • #7
              BigDogatPlay
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2007
              • 7362

              Assuming a barrel less than 16 inches but with a device (Cutts Compensator, Breacher) permanently attached that makes the total unit longer than 18 inches, then that would also be a legal configuration where the barrel itself is under 16 inches.

              At least as I understand it.
              -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

              Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

              Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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              • #8
                West545
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 74

                Alright thanks guys

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                • #9
                  PEZHEAD265
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 980

                  Originally posted by Bobula
                  Meh, I jumped the gun. Technically yes, but only via AOW
                  The receiver of AOW shotgun was never made to have a stock on it.It has to start out as a virgin receiver and then make the build.

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                  • #10
                    tacticalcity
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 10929

                    They pretty much covered it. There is an exception for Curio and Relic shotguns. I do not know the exact details. If you search for it, you will find more than one thread explaining the ins and outs of it.

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                    • #11
                      Z ME FLY
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6590

                      Originally posted by tacticalcity
                      They pretty much covered it. There is an exception for Curio and Relic shotguns. I do not know the exact details. If you search for it, you will find more than one thread explaining the ins and outs of it.
                      Actually they aren't approving the C&R stuff anymore. I was talking to a guy who was applying for a trust so he can make a sbs. I mentioned he should just go the C&R route and he let me know they said once you changed the firearm i.e. cutting it, it won't be c&r anymore and won't be approved.
                      Originally posted by 69Mach1
                      The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

                      Originally posted by 69Mach1
                      Z gets around. lol

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                      • #12
                        bigthaiboy
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4795

                        Originally posted by Z ME FLY
                        Actually they aren't approving the C&R stuff anymore. I was talking to a guy who was applying for a trust so he can make a sbs. I mentioned he should just go the C&R route and he let me know they said once you changed the firearm i.e. cutting it, it won't be c&r anymore and won't be approved.

                        This is exactly how it was explained to me by another Calgunner who already has a trust and doing the sbs thing.

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