Benelli M4 vs M1014

[JPurp]

So I am a Benelli owner from back before I lived in the PRK. I am now looking into the Benelli M4 and to be PRK compliant it can't have the collapsible stock.

I am thinking of getting an M4 with a fixed stock and buying the collapsible stock assembly including tube for out of state use. I figure I can leave the tube on all the time and just change out the stock when out of state. I am very familiar with removing the stock on my M1 and M2

My question is can you use the multi-position collapsible tube with the fixed stock?

From a legal stand point why can't you use the skeleton stock that is fixed in the open position? I don't think this approach will be any easier as out of state I will have to replace the single position tube with the three position but I am still curious.

Thanks,

-JP

[PEBKAC]

From what I can tell given my M4, M4s come with the correct 3 position tube for the collapsible stock however they are shipped with a fixed PG stock as a general rule so you would probably not have to buy a tube in addition to the collapsible stock assembly.

From a technical standpoint this should be perfectly okay, as any stock designed for the M4 should install correctly on this tube. From a legal standpoint there should not be a problem when there is a fixed length stock installed on the 3 position tube. The fixed stock cannot be collapsed or folded when installed as per its design so it matters not if the tube can accommodate a collapsible stock...as long as it does not accommodate said collapsing stock within CA state borders.

As to using a pinned collapsible stock, yes that would be legal. However it is advisable to err on the side of caution when pinning, so it may be more work unpin a collapsing stock than simply removing the fixed length stock and installing the collapsible when out of state.

Given what I have heard around here though, you may like the fixed length stocks better. Apparently the collapsible stocks are less than comfortable.

[vf111]

And considering Benelli stopped importing the collapsible stock for civvies they have gone crazy up in cost - I sold mine for almost $1K a year ago.....that's the stock ONLY....

[randy]

I don't know if this is true or not so here goes. I was told if your M4 doesn't have the LE designation it won't accept the tube stock. I have no idea if this is true look into it if you want.

[PEBKAC]

I don't know if this is true or not so here goes. I was told if your M4 doesn't have the LE designation it won't accept the tube stock. I have no idea if this is true look into it if you want.

I'd put money on this not being true...I'll check to see if mine is LE marked when I get home just to be sure though. All I know is in stock configuration (the way I bought it) it had a shiny 3 position tube which somewhat implies it can accept the collapsing stock, and I don't remember any LE markings but I could be wrong.

[JPurp]

So I don't know that there is specificily an LE designation on the gun itself. The way I understand it the part number decides what is under the covers.

My concern is simply that I buy an M4 and it won't take the 3 position tube. At that point I am stuck with the fixed stock. At least if I know on the front end that the M4 won't take the 3 position tube I can suck it up and by the limited run M1014 with the single position stock already on it and have a middleman FFL install tube and the fixed stock over it.

I am not overly concerned about cost for the tube as I have access to a resource that can purchase LE accessories. I am concerned about the inflated cost of the M1014 limited edition as most of the added expense is in the flag stamped on the receiver.

[PEBKAC]

M11707s have LE as part of the designation as per the label on the box.

Buy a current generation M4 (M11707) and you shouldn't have any problems as it comes with the correct 3 position tube installed. Or at least it should.

To get the functionality you want you do not need a US flag stamped M1014.