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  • XDRoX
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4420

    Info on an old shotgun

    My best friend inherited a Browning over and under shotgun and offered it to me for $200. I assume it's at least worth that and since I don't have a nice shotgun I'll probably buy it. I just wanted to post it here first to get any info on it.
    All I know is that it's a Browning. My buddy still has the hand written receipt that his grandfather got when he bought it used in 1960 for $200. And it's a 12 gauge.
    Besides that I know nothing.
    Can I shoot it considering it's age?
    Will it make a good trap gun?
    Any problems to look out for?
    I can take more pics if you need them.
    Thanks in advance for any info.

    Chris
    <----Rimfire Addict


    Originally posted by Oceanbob
    Get a DILLON...
  • #2
    delisle
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 1747

    Buy it!!!!!!!!! Right now, old Brownings like that are a great find. but it and then take it to a gunsmith. Get it!
    "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."- Henry Lewis Mencken

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    • #3
      gaucho750
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 85

      Buy it...BUY IT NOW!!!!
      MR GURA: "Justice Sotomayor, states may have grown accustomed to violating the rights of American citizens, but that does not bootstrap those violations into something that is constitutional."

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      • #4
        BigDogatPlay
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2007
        • 7362

        Originally posted by XDRoX
        My best friend inherited a Browning over and under shotgun and offered it to me for $200.
        Quite likely worth more, almost any Browning O/U is a prize. Buy it... now.


        Can I shoot it considering it's age?
        Almost certainly, but have a gunsmith check it out

        Will it make a good trap gun?
        Maybe... going to depend on how it's choked. Modified or less choke for trap

        Any problems to look out for?
        Rust, particular in the bores.
        Dents in the barrels
        Bulges in the barrels
        Rib coming off
        Corrosion inside the receiver / on the pivot
        A gunsmith can evaluate the mechanism to make sure it's safe and that everything works as designed.
        -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

        Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

        Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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        • #5
          mjsweims
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 807

          If you don't want it I'll fly down and buy it.
          Jack

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          • #6
            aippi
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 2302

            Sorry but it is a hunk of junk and you should not get stuck with it, so have him call me immediately day or night and I will be a great guy and take that POS off his hands. Yes, I know, I am a great person for doing something like this for a fellow forum member

            Be warned, if he is a friend and finds out what that is worth he might be bitter that he let it go to you for only $200. There is not enough info or pictures to even start to guess at the value of this weapon. Is it Belgian made? what grade, as Browning go by Grade I, Grade II ect...., what barrels, what chokes? What stocks? It could be worth from a little as $600 to Thousands depending on these things.

            Taking it to a local skeet range would get some good info as those guys know these guns better then guys like me. I can only look in the Blue book and there are so many models of the Browning SxS and O/U that I could not even come close without having more info.
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            • #7
              XDRoX
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 4420

              Wow thanks for the replies. He already took it and got it appraised. He said he could get $1100 for it but would rather I have it.
              There is one thing. The stock has been cut down about an inch for a short person I guess. When his grandfather bought it he had the stock re-lengthened. So you can see that the end of the stock has different wood on it. Whoever did it did a beautiful job, but you can tell it's not original. My buddy told me if the stock had never been altered the gun would be worth over $2500. But since it was cut and then re-lengthened, it's not even worth half that. He knows I'll shoot it, so he offered it to me for $200.
              Sounds like I should buy it, which I probably will.
              Chris
              <----Rimfire Addict


              Originally posted by Oceanbob
              Get a DILLON...

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              • #8
                Thefeeder
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2007
                • 5006

                ttt

                Info

                Browning Superposed Grade I Standard Weight.
                Hand Engraved and made in Belgium.

                Single kinetic trigger system ( recoil from first sheel sets the second)
                Non automatic safety....close and shoot. Saftey is is just below the lever ("on safe" is down position) "S" showing
                Saftey switch is also the barrel selector ( most O/U's shoot the wider choked lower barrel first) Push down, over ,up..you will see a "O" or a "U"
                When you open the barrels the are marks on the side **, *, *- these are the choke markings


                High quality animals...some say the best field gun ever made....I agree if its a Superposed Lightning (just lighter version of the same thing)
                Original blue and wood finish are essentual to value...molested guns have little collector valve. (I know who cares, it a shooter. Its fine, until you sand off 2000.00...not off this one, but you get the 8x10)

                FYI...Browning warns NOT to shoot steel shot in any Belgium made guns

                Post a pic of the top of the receiver and give the first 4 digits of the serial # for more.

                Can you shoot? Yes, then hand it down to your kids...who can shoot it and hand it down to their kids. They are made like tanks.
                Trap Gun? Sure many do.

                PS: Was the seller drunk or was he recently hit in the head for selling it at 200?
                Last edited by Thefeeder; 02-25-2010, 11:46 PM.

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                • #9
                  XDRoX
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 4420

                  Here's a shot of where the stock was cut:

                  Here's the top:

                  The serial # is 43xxx
                  Chris
                  <----Rimfire Addict


                  Originally posted by Oceanbob
                  Get a DILLON...

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                  • #10
                    Thefeeder
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 5006

                    Originally posted by XDRoX
                    Here's a shot of where the stock was cut:

                    Here's the top:

                    The serial # is 43xxx
                    43XXX made in 1955

                    The stock is a dam sham. The gun has seen a lot of use over the years from the position of the lever. In the near future you should have the action tightened, cheep to do...then, your good to go for another 55 years and a zillon rounds

                    PS: Was the appraiser drunk or resently hit in the head...1100?.......... 2500 if "as new" original condition ...retail .........enjoy your shotgun, you did good
                    Last edited by Thefeeder; 02-25-2010, 11:43 PM.

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                    • #11
                      XDRoX
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4420

                      Originally posted by Thefeeder

                      PS: Was the appraiser drunk or resently hit in the head...1100? 2500 if "as new" original condition ...retail .........enjoy your shotgun, you did good
                      Thanks for all the info Feeder. I do agree, the stock is a shame. I didn't follow what you said last. Is $1100 way too much, or is it worth somewhere around there?
                      Thanks
                      Chris
                      <----Rimfire Addict


                      Originally posted by Oceanbob
                      Get a DILLON...

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                      • #12
                        IrishPirate
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6390

                        you could probably add another zero on that price tag.....buy it!
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                        • #13
                          tunder
                          Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 267

                          If you don't buy it, I will, so help me GOD, get on an airplane, fly out there and slap you.
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                          • #14
                            ElToro
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 721

                            rough 12 ga superposed field grade or whatever the lowest level is probly right at 800- 1100 or so. ive seen them cheaper and more

                            clean and uncut stock 2500 is probly right on as well... pre war or higher grades( nicer wood and engraving, action the same)

                            hi grade multi barrel NIB examples go for as much as a small house.

                            you have a very generous friend. you got a great deal. probly the best OU ever built and surely the best with a reasonable street price. (perazzi, guerini etc. excepted as they cost SO much to get into and probly still arent as good as a belgian superposed)

                            check these guys http://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi for premium gunsmithing on superposed. they have a bunch of former browning employees there as gunsmiths and have the wood you need as well. and probly alter the chokes to something useful like mod/imp

                            just keping it as is as a shooter is fine, it probly still locks up tight like a bank vault and your great grandkids will be shooting skeet and upland birds with it.
                            for a shooter, you cant get abette OU
                            Last edited by ElToro; 02-26-2010, 7:34 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Thefeeder
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 5006

                              ....

                              Originally posted by XDRoX
                              Thanks for all the info Feeder. I do agree, the stock is a shame. I didn't follow what you said last. Is $1100 way too much, or is it worth somewhere around there?
                              Thanks
                              PM sent
                              Last edited by Thefeeder; 02-26-2010, 7:58 PM. Reason: Incorrect

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