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  • TDK
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1

    Why is 3" really 2.5"?

    I have a newb question about shotshells: Why is a shell marked 2.75" length (70mm) when the shell is actually 2.25" long? And the 3" magnum is really only 2.5"? Attached is a pic of a Winchester Super-X 2.75" Game Load with 1oz #8 shot and a Remington Slugger 3" with 7/8oz slug.

    Also, a shell that is supposed to be 2.75" Super-X 1oz slug (not pictured) measures in-between these two. So I'm a little confused about what the shell length measurement is all about.

    Last edited by TDK; 01-01-2010, 3:55 PM.
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    Noobert
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    • Jan 2009
    • 3341

    I have no idea about shotgun/shells, but is this also the case with 38spl being 357?
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      caoboy
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 2400

      Your tape measure is inaccurate.

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        TKM
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        • Jul 2002
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        It's the length of the chamber not the unfired shell. There is extra length for the crimp to get clear of the shot or slug.

        If you stuff a 3 1/2 inch shell in a 3 inch chamber (it will fit) then you will have very serious pressure problems.

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          RaymondMillbrae
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          • Jun 2009
          • 2659

          Shell sizes are usually taken when the hulls are opened.

          When a shell is new, it is closed/crimped/rolled...hence shorter.

          The importance of this measurement is in the shotguns chamber.

          When the shell is shot, the hull will unfold, and it must fit the chamber in your shotgun to extract properly.

          Hope that made sense.

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            ke6guj
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            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by RaymondMillbrae
            Shell sizes are usually taken when the hulls are opened.

            When a shell is new, it is closed/crimped/rolled...hence shorter.

            The importance of this measurement is in the shotguns chamber.

            When the shell is shot, the hull will unfold, and it must fit the chamber in your shotgun to extract properly.
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            • #7
              DarkHorse
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              • Jan 2009
              • 935

              Originally posted by Noobert
              I have no idea about shotgun/shells, but is this also the case with 38spl being 357?
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              .357 Magnum and .38 Special use the same caliber bullet, but the .357 case is longer. It was designed this way so people do not fire high pressure .357 rounds in guns only designed for .38 Special. If that happened, the gun would go boom.

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              • #8
                bohoki
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                • Jan 2006
                • 20815

                yep its the fired length because that is the size they become in the chamber

                roll crimped with a disk are longer than star crimped unfired

                it does cause some confusion when it comes to tube magazine capacity

                like my winchester holds 7 in the tube of 2 3/4 but roll crimped s&b buckshot also marked 2 3/4 only fit 6

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