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  • lunde
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 1036

    Wilson Arms WP870 (AOW)

    AOW is an abbreviation for Any Other Weapon, and is one type of NFA (aka, Class III) firearm. One of the most common types AOWs are those built from shotguns with short barrels and no shoulder stock. I have been the legal owner of an OAW since early 1988, and it is a Wilson Arms WP870 (Witness Protection 870), and as its designation suggests, it is built from a Remington 870 receiver. Its barrel is 12.5 inches, and its OAL is 24.5 inches. And yes, its barrel has a choke.

    While it is certainly possible to modify a shotgun to the same configuration as an AOW, the fact that the shotgun once had a shoulder stock means that it would instead be classified as a short-barrelled shotgun (SBS). There are three significances I should note: 1) the NFA stamp for a SBS is $200, but only $5 for an AOW 2) AOWs are legal in California per California Penal Code 12020(b)(8), but SBSes are not; and 3) an AOW can never have a shoulder stock, and attaching one would constitute making an SBS.

    Anyway, here are photos of my lovely AOW:







  • #2
    wilit
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2005
    • 5210

    I've been seriously considering jumping through the hoops to get an AOW. Nice example of one.

    Did you buy yours in state or move here from another state?
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    • #3
      lunde
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 1036

      wilit, you wrote:
      Did you buy yours in state or move here from another state?
      I became the legal owner when I was living in Wisconsin. It remained there when I moved to California in 1991. It then moved to South Dakota (via ATF Form 5320.20) five years ago, when my parents retired there. Finally, it moved to California last month (via another ATF Form 5320.20).
      Last edited by lunde; 08-30-2009, 5:05 PM.

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      • #4
        bombadillo
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2007
        • 14810

        Nice setup man. You've got some really quality guns from all the pics you have out here.

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        • #5
          JDMIS300
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 905

          Beautiful shotgun. Makes me want to jump through all the toils of AOW in CA.

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          • #6
            PRODRIVE
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 1562

            i want one!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            • #7
              lunde
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1036

              JDMIS300, you wrote:
              Beautiful shotgun.
              Technically, it is not a shotgun. It happens to be built using a shotgun receiver, and fire 12 gauge. This is the beauty of the AOW classification. When you have a free moment or two, be sure to read California Penal Code 12020(b)(8).

              And, about hoops, they were made for jumping through.

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              • #8
                Super Spy
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 3461

                That looks pretty handy for home defense and tight quarters....I want one!
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                • #9
                  DarkHorse
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 935

                  Originally posted by lunde
                  AOW is an abbreviation for Any Other Weapon, and is one type of NFA (aka, Class III) firearm. One of the most common types AOWs are those built from shotguns with short barrels and no shoulder stock. I have been the legal owner of an OAW since early 1988, and it is a Wilson Arms WP870 (Witness Protection 870), and as its designation suggests, it is built from a Remington 870 receiver. Its barrel is 12.5 inches, and its OAL is 24.5 inches. And yes, its barrel has a choke.

                  While it is certainly possible to modify a shotgun to the same configuration as an AOW, the fact that the shotgun once had a shoulder stock means that it would instead be classified as a short-barrelled shotgun (SBS). There are three significances I should note: 1) the NFA stamp for a SBS is $200, but only $5 for an AOW 2) AOWs are legal in California per California Penal Code 12020(b)(8), but SBSes are not; and 3) an AOW can never have a shoulder stock, and attaching one would constitute making an SBS.

                  ...snip...
                  1) Building your own AOW/SBS/SBR on a Form 1 will cost you $200. Transferring an SBS or SBR on a Form 4 will cost $200, but an AOW on a Form 4 is only $5.
                  2) SBS's are legal in CA, but they must be C&R and have the appropriate stamp.
                  3) Correct.

                  This is my sig line.

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                  • #10
                    JDMIS300
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 905

                    Originally posted by lunde
                    JDMIS300, you wrote:Technically, it is not a shotgun. It happens to be built using a shotgun receiver, and fire 12 gauge. This is the beauty of the AOW classification. When you have a free moment or two, be sure to read California Penal Code 12020(b)(8).

                    And, about hoops, they were made for jumping through.
                    Oops my mistake. I remember reading the thread about SBS/SBR and AOW's in California somewhere here on Calguns. That thing was a bear of a thread, i think it was almost 50 pages last time i saw it. I guess i should have said nice AOW.

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                    • #11
                      lunde
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 1036

                      DarkHorse, you wrote:
                      1) Building your own AOW/SBS/SBR on a Form 1 will cost you $200. Transferring an SBS or SBR on a Form 4 will cost $200, but an AOW on a Form 4 is only $5.
                      2) SBS's are legal in CA, but they must be C&R and have the appropriate stamp.
                      3) Correct.

                      http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=82693
                      Thank you for the clarification.

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                      • #12
                        Bowser
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1969

                        I like that finish!

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                        • #13
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30242

                          Congrats on the AOW!

                          Almost makes me want to get one myself.


                          Another thing to note about AOWs in CA.
                          They meets the definition of a "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person" [PC 12001(a)(1)], so technically, you can have it listed on a CA CCW permit [PC 12050(a)(1)(A)(i)]. Now, getting it done, is another matter.
                          Last edited by Quiet; 08-30-2009, 5:09 PM.
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                          • #14
                            KABA556
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 307

                            Greetings!

                            Awesome AOW you have there, just one question...

                            I have one that is in the store waiting for my paperwork to come through. Would you be as so kind as to tell me where you bought the front sling plate and how you got the rear sling swivel in place?

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                            • #15
                              lunde
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1036

                              The front sling plate came with it, and the rear sling swivel is standard on may weapons.

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