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  • #16
    Russian Bot
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2021
    • 521

    I have a Panzer M4 and really enjoy it. You have to be cautious with aftermarket parts as there are some comparability gaps. I currently have a Mesa Tactical Urbino on mine and its great. The extensions to look for are Dave's Metal Works full tube and Panzer now makes a +2 and a full 7 round tube. I recommend going full tube. If yours has the rail mount out by the end of the tube you may have to do some tweaking to keep it.

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    • #17
      Russian Bot
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2021
      • 521

      Originally posted by Jason_2111
      So today a buddy texts me and asks if the Panzer lever shotgun is any good.
      I tell him "Never heard of them... lemme check".

      3 hours later after watching a ton of YouTube reviews, I decide that there's a gaping hole in my collection that is shaped mysteriously like their M4-clone, and the cool lever gun. (Ain't a fan of mazazine fed shotty's, so no bullpup for me)
      But, before I throw 2 or 3 guns on order, I figured it'd be better to check with the brain trust.


      The EG-240 is $350 at PSA... https://palmettostatearmory.com/bran...rms/eg240.html


      The lever action is OOS at PSA, but runs like 400 I think. https://palmettostatearmory.com/panz...eg220lats.html

      Not a fan of Black Aces... but I heard a lot of good stuff about these cheap Panzers. What say y'all... Anybody play with them yet? Might be my next birthday present to myself.
      I'm intrigued by the lever offering, I will say that every lever 12G I've seen has had its issues. Typically needing to work the action like a cheap you know what, and finicky with ammo.

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      • #18
        wussery
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2021
        • 67

        Originally posted by Coolguy101

        No its not. 922r doesn't apply because its already imported, and that firearm is not prohibited from being imported from that country. You can make all the changes you want to that firearm without regard to 922r.

        Here's a video that explains 922r as it relates to a Benelli M4. This topic also applies to a Panzer M4. He has several videos on his website that explain the Federal Law requirements for other parts of a M4.

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        • #19
          CamW
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 1704

          Dave's Metal Works makes a replacement magazine tube and other accessories for the Turkish clones.

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          • #20
            Coolguy101
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 655

            Originally posted by wussery

            Here's a video that explains 922r as it relates to a Benelli M4. This topic also applies to a Panzer M4. He has several videos on his website that explain the Federal Law requirements for other parts of a M4.

            https://bit.ly/4dOu1gj
            It doesn't apply to end users. Only importers, manufacturers, and resellers. From their lips to my ears, but don't take my word for it. Ask an import attorney. I did.

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            • #21
              sigstroker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2009
              • 19808

              From the research I did online, modifying a 922r firearm is the same as "assembling". You're required to keep it compliant.

              IANAL (thank goodness).

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              • #22
                vf111
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 2715

                Originally posted by CamW
                Dave's Metal Works makes a replacement magazine tube and other accessories for the Turkish clones.

                https://davesmetalworks.com/turkish.html
                Currently OOS unfortunately.

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                • #23
                  JoyfulJoker
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Sep 2018
                  • 757

                  Originally posted by sigstroker
                  From the research I did online, modifying a 922r firearm is the same as "assembling". You're required to keep it compliant.

                  IANAL (thank goodness).
                  it refers to assembly with foreign parts to resemble a banned import. There is no prohibition on modifying it with American made parts. https://lynxdefense.com/922r-compliance/




                  Last edited by JoyfulJoker; 06-04-2024, 7:53 AM.

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                  • #24
                    sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19808

                    Originally posted by JoyfulJoker

                    it refers to assembly with foreign parts to resemble a banned import. There is no prohibition on modifying it with American made parts. https://lynxdefense.com/922r-compliance/



                    I've read different. Modifying an existing imported part is the same as assembling, according to what I've read.

                    I'm not your daddy though, do what you want.

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