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  • nemisis1400
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 1270

    Gap in shotgun

    I have side by side shotgun, and I noticed that there is 1mm gap between the barrel and the receiver(is that what you call it?) Is this safe to fire? I know that revolvers are kinda open like that too, but is this okay for shotguns?
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    nemisis1400
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 1270

    yeah this is an old c&r shotgun that was all kinds of rusted when i got it.

    The shells fit nice and tight in the barrel, but the receiver has a bit of a gap like 1mm. I can squeeze the two together to seal it up, but it naturally loosens up when i let go.

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    • #3
      Stryfe76
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 744

      Is there a latch or catch you can shim or adjust to keep it closed tighter?

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      • #4
        nemisis1400
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 1270

        just the bottom hinge really, no other contact points.

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        • #5
          nemisis1400
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 1270

          So i guess no one knows if it's safe to fire with a gap like this?

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          • #6
            Stryfe76
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 744

            I wouldn't do it unless you can get a gunsmith to says it's all good.

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            • #7
              Fjold
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Oct 2005
              • 23045

              Your shotgun is "off face". This is caused by wear on the hinge pins and the cumulative effect of all the shooting.

              It can be dangerous as the latch is no longer tight and the action can open under pressure when firing if it gets bad enough.

              It can be fixed and is done regularly on 100 year old British double rifles that are worn out from shooting the big bore loads through them but be prepared to spend $$$ to do it.

              Unless the gun is an original Holland, Greener, Army-Navy, Rigby etc, it's not worth it.
              Frank

              One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




              Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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              • #8
                bohoki
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 20826

                this happens when some body is snapping the barrels closed like you see in the movies

                its no problem if the barrels are only 10 inches but if you got 26 inches of barrels the effect is increased dramatically and cumulative

                if it locks up solid though i wouldnt be afraid to shoot it with some low base

                is it litterally 1 mm have you used a feeler gage? or is it just one of them eyeball measures

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                • #9
                  nemisis1400
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1270

                  It's more of an eyeball measure, but when I took some pictures I could slide this piece of brass into the gap when closed.

                  Here are some pics





                  the gap is bigger on the right than the left

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                  • #10
                    nemisis1400
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1270

                    just took a ruler to it, and it looks like the right has a gap a hair bigger than 1mm, the left is just 1mm. Barrel length is 24in. Overall 41in.

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                    • #11
                      bohoki
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 20826

                      first things first is it profed for smokeless

                      got any pics of markings?

                      i dont care if it closes up like a vault door if its not rated for smokeless shells

                      it might make a spiffy lamp

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                      • #12
                        nemisis1400
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 1270

                        right side:
                        Cresent FireArms Cp
                        Norwich Conn. U.S.A.
                        left side:
                        No.60 EmpireHammerless

                        And regular 12gauge shells fit in the breech. I think it can take modern shells.

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                        • #13
                          bohoki
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 20826

                          that shotgun was made at or before 1893

                          please retire it before it retires you

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