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  • M1A Rifleman
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3691

    What range to zero peep sight?

    What is the recommended range to zero the 590A1 peep sight for slugs - is it 50yds, 100yds or other?

    If it is zeroed for 50 or 100yds with slugs, what will happen with 00 at say 25 yds? Will it print high, low, dead-on, off to one side what?
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    randy
    In Memoriam
    • Nov 2006
    • 4642

    You need to determine the distance you want your gun zero'd and how far you think your longest shots will be. As for shot, you need to pattern your own gun so you know where it shoots at what distance.

    Nobody can tell you. You need to answer these questions by shooting.
    I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

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      M1A Rifleman
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3691

      Originally posted by randy
      You need to determine the distance you want your gun zero'd and how far you think your longest shots will be. As for shot, you need to pattern your own gun so you know where it shoots at what distance.

      Nobody can tell you. You need to answer these questions by shooting.
      Really, so I could expect slugs to hit targets at 500 yds and zero/pattern the gun for that? Big help thanks. rolleyes:
      The only thing that is worse than an idiot, is someone who argues with one.

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      • #4
        polygunner
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 512

        I have my 590 zeroed at 25 yds. point of aim is point of impact.
        Never shot it at anything farther.
        Slugs and 00 buckshot impact at the same spot at that distance.
        I'll have to try 50 and 100 yds, just to see.
        pg

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        • #5
          M1A Rifleman
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 3691

          Originally posted by polygunner
          I have my 590 zeroed at 25 yds. point of aim is point of impact.
          Never shot it at anything farther.
          Slugs and 00 buckshot impact at the same spot at that distance.
          I'll have to try 50 and 100 yds, just to see.
          pg
          Now that is a helpful answer, and gives me a starting point for posting targets. Much appreciated!!

          Last question: at 25 yds, what is the dia of the pattern of buckshot - will it blast a tight hole within a typical target or will the pellets tend to scatter wide and hit the frame? I'm trying to avoid a slap upside the head from the RO the firs time out with the shotgun.
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          • #6
            vinny_land
            CGN Contributor
            • Dec 2007
            • 3374

            The diameter of the pattern depends on what brand of ammo (Winchester vs Federal) you use and the type of choke. Most likely the 590 is IC and again depending on what brand of shot you use. My 982 tends to patten Federal LE better than Winchester Super X but that doesnt mean your shotgun might like the same thing. Try out different brands of 00buck and see which one patterns the best.

            As for distance like 25 yards, I tend to practice at the length of my hallway. I mean its good to see that you can hit a target at 25 yards but you also want to make sure you can get a good pattern at a realistic distance inside your house. My hallway is almost 15 feet (not yards remember) and all nine pellets from Federal and even Winchester buckshot land inside of a 12'' circle...which is center of mass on a paper silhouette.
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            • #7
              polygunner
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 512

              I shot on the rifle side at Sac valley. Using the target stands they provide I didn't hit the legs of the target frame.
              My 590 is a cylinder bore 20" barrel using S&B 00 buck.
              pg

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              • #8
                M1A Rifleman
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 3691

                Originally posted by polygunner
                I shot on the rifle side at Sac valley. Using the target stands they provide I didn't hit the legs of the target frame.
                My 590 is a cylinder bore 20" barrel using S&B 00 buck.
                pg

                Thanks
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                • #9
                  tyrist
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 4564

                  We zero our slug guns at 50 yards. At 25 yards your buckshot should hit just about where you aim.

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                  • #10
                    randy
                    In Memoriam
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 4642

                    Originally posted by M1A Rifleman
                    Really, so I could expect slugs to hit targets at 500 yds and zero/pattern the gun for that? Big help thanks. rolleyes:
                    You're kidding right! If the targets I expect to hit are going to be at 50 yards I'm going to zero at 50 and work my hold overs and unders based on a 50 yard zero. If the targets I'm generally shooting are at 75 yards then my zero is going to be different and my hold overs and unders too.

                    I don't use a rear site but my zero is at 40 yards.

                    You have to decide your starting point and work from there.
                    Last edited by randy; 07-29-2009, 1:50 AM.
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                    • #11
                      Dr. Peter Venkman
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 4899

                      Originally posted by M1A Rifleman
                      Really, so I could expect slugs to hit targets at 500 yds and zero/pattern the gun for that? Big help thanks. rolleyes:
                      He told you everything you needed to know. What's with the attitude?
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                      • #12
                        sargenv
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4620

                        Last question: at 25 yds, what is the dia of the pattern of buckshot - will it blast a tight hole within a typical target or will the pellets tend to scatter wide and hit the frame? I'm trying to avoid a slap upside the head from the RO the firs time out with the shotgun.
                        I know a guy who uses a Turkey Full choke when he shoots 00 buck. He has travelled to some far away matches where there is shooting of steel at 40+ yards. I was impressed that at 40 yards, his pattern was about 6". With a more open choke, your dispersal can be dramatic. It might hit all of an IPSC metric target or it might get a percentage of hits. The best way to find out is to try it.

                        Another q I have is, are you using full power heavy loaded ammo or tactical light recoil ammo? Diff velocities may make a difference at differing ranges. When you find something you like, stick with it and get it by the case so that you have a known reference point.

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