Caesar Guerini is another brand you might want to consider.
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Imageview: there are several models of the CZ as there are any other o/u so I definitely would want to shoot one before I choose. Somebody actually scooped up a 686 this week and I shouldn't have hesitated. It went really fast. There have been a few Browning O/U but overall, not many. The CZs seem to be in stock, depending on what model in most Local GS. I will have to look at them closer. Thanks all. I haven't been to Pacific Arms yet but will do this week. Anyone up for trap on sunday mornings at Prado once a month or a little less often , PM me. I still have some ammo.
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I have a Citori 725 Trap Max. I like having features like the adjustable comb, rib, and Gray Coil butt pad. You can get those feature for less money if you buy from Guns Unlimited. Typical length is 32". Some version come in 30" but the unsingle is even longer at 34". Not sure why you like the 26". The longer barrel will give you more speed for the same load.
I have looked at the DT11 but that is a big jump up in price but it can be had with an adjustable stock. I think that is important if you can't do the whole Perazzi thing and have your stock custom cut. Otherwise, you are forcing yourself to fit the gun rather than have the gun fit you. I haven't seen version of the Beretta in the 725 price range that has all the adjustments. maybe someone offers it.Pleasanton CA, Citori 725 Trap Max, Benelli M2, SW 686, CZ 75, SP01, and others.Comment
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So little if any to be a non-factor.I have a Citori 725 Trap Max. I like having features like the adjustable comb, rib, and Gray Coil butt pad. You can get those feature for less money if you buy from Guns Unlimited. Typical length is 32". Some version come in 30" but the unsingle is even longer at 34". Not sure why you like the 26". The longer barrel will give you more speed for the same load.
I have looked at the DT11 but that is a big jump up in price but it can be had with an adjustable stock. I think that is important if you can't do the whole Perazzi thing and have your stock custom cut. Otherwise, you are forcing yourself to fit the gun rather than have the gun fit you. I haven't seen version of the Beretta in the 725 price range that has all the adjustments. maybe someone offers it.
while there's reasons for long'ish barrels in trap and (more recently) some carryover to other games, velocity is not one of them.
Last I knew you could add a Gracoil, adjustable comb, etc. for < $1K. So I wouldn't let that dictate my choices.Last edited by JagerDog; 03-16-2023, 11:30 AM.Palestine is a fake country
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The longer barrels provide a much better follow=through than the short. This is paramount in the clay games.
They also are no so whippy and smooth out your lead.
30" is very common and as stated, there are also many 32" barrels. For trap you can get an unsingle or oversingle barrel with a Beretta.
The only thing that I personally don't like about the Browning is that for the most part they have the ported barrels. More cleaning for not much pay back. Plus they are very loud to anyone shooting next to you.
I also highly recommend Pacific Sporting Arms, an excellent place to purchase a shotgun, and yes, Jordan is the best.
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I've had both, in the last 4 years. I bought the 12 ga Beretta Outlander A300, with a 30 inch barrel, and shot it for a year. It just never felt right. I ended up selling it, and bought the Browning 725 Sporting 12 ga, with the 30 inch barrel, and changed the end sight, to a "white bead" and have enjoyed it for the last couple years. I think its a better quality gun, than the Beretta. Reading the posting on this site, and talking to the guys at the range, made my decision to buy the Browning. No RegretsComment
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I feel like it is a bit unfair to compare a sub-$800 semi auto to a +$3000 over/under.I've had both, in the last 4 years. I bought the 12 ga Beretta Outlander A300, with a 30 inch barrel, and shot it for a year. It just never felt right. I ended up selling it, and bought the Browning 725 Sporting 12 ga, with the 30 inch barrel, and changed the end sight, to a "white bead" and have enjoyed it for the last couple years. I think its a better quality gun, than the Beretta. Reading the posting on this site, and talking to the guys at the range, made my decision to buy the Browning. No Regrets
I have an a300 and recently picked up a BT99. And to be honest, they both feel the same to me. The bt99 does give me more kick but that is to be expected since it is a single shotLast edited by Scratch705; 03-20-2023, 10:46 PM.Originally posted by leelawBecause -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?Originally posted by SoCalSig1911Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.Originally posted by PrepperGunShopTruthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).Comment
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You could compromise with 28 inch barrels, shoot flush chokes or add an inch with extended ones if you want to. I will be selling an immaculate Browning Citori Ultra XS Sporting with 28 inch barrels in the next month, PM me if interested.
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I have many, many more shotguns and as I near my 60's I'm starting to thin them out. I've owned, shot clays and hunted with many great Browning and Beretta shotguns over the past 40+ years, I don't think you can go wrong with either of them when considering their operation and factory support and, if taken care of properly, they hold their value and some will even appreciate over time..
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That's a great looking group. I will make some time to go to Pacific. Yes, I have seen some ported Browning and I am not a fan either. Everyone seen that browning o/u in menifee that someone is selling. I have been thinking about making the 2 hour drive out there.Comment
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