Shotgun Mag Extensions

[rromeo]

Okay. Thank you.

[electric7]

It's a crap law, especially with regard to shotgun tubes. Hopefully it will be overturned soon and you won't have to worry about selling it.

[walmart_ar15]

If the extension can be installed on a magazine and be able to increase the ammunition capacity to be greater than 10 rounds; then it is considered a "large capacity magazine conversion kit" and illegal to make, import, advertise for sale, or transfer in CA. [PC 32311(a)]

That's a bit tricky.

If a 4-shot mag extension is designed for a 5 shot mag tube it would be legal to sell. But if the same 4-shot mag extension can also fit a 7 shot mag tube, making it 11 total, how would one decide if it is kosher or not? Same 4-shot mag tube but can end up with two different total capacity.

[champu]

That's a bit tricky.

capable of converting an ammunition feeding device into a large-capacity magazine.

[Capybara]

Nobody ever said California's firearm restriction laws weren't amongst the most convoluted, idiotic, non-sensical laws in America. They are.

[W.R.Buchanan]

CA DOJ BOF enforces it, the last time it (fixed tubular magazine capacity limits) came up is when they notified (12-2016) CA FFL dealers and UTAS-USA that the UTS-15 needed to be modified in order to be CA legal due to its fixed tubular magazine system being considered a large capacity magazine.

The UTAS UTS-15 has two fixed tubular magazines that automatically feeds shells from both tubular magazines in an alternating pattern. Because it automatically feeds from both fixed tubular magazines, CA DOJ BOF determined that it is one ammunition feeding device and in order to be CA legal, the tubular magazines needed to be permanently altered so that they could only hold a total of 10 rounds (5 rounds per tubular magazine).

Because the Kel-Tec KSG, S&W M&P-12, and IWI TS-12 requires their multiple fixed tubular magazines to be manually switched to feed, CA DOJ BOF determined that each tubular magazine is a separate ammunition feeding device.

Per CA DOJ BOF...
UTAS UTS-15 = 14+1 capacity = CA illegal large capacity magazine.
Kel-Tec KSG = 6+6+1 capacity = CA legal.
S&W M&P-12 = 6+6+1 capacity = CA legal.
IWI TS-12 = 4+4+4+1 capacity = CA legal.

So how many people have been arrested for having these illegal magazines guns as the sole charge?

Is the number ZERO?

Since I don't have any Shotguns with mag tubes larger than 7 rounds this doesn't affect me in any way and I would submit that even if I did the CA DOJ would never find out about it.

I shoot with Cops every month at a 3 gun event. Everyone at the event has an AR which is virtually stock with 30 round mags, including the cops. I shoot my Mini 14 or KT SU16 They also have Benelli shotguns with tubes longer than the barrel and handguns with hi cap mags.

Nobody cares about these laws because nobody at this event is a criminal! If a Criminal showed up and did something stupid the Cops would instantly do their job even though they are "Off Duty." And I would help!

None of the Police or Sheriffs that show up want anything to do with enforcing these stupid laws, and have told us that several times. It is nothing more than a good way for them to get killed.

Randy