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  • bobcat
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 58

    Muzzle loader shotgun

    I own a 12 gauge muzzle loader shotgun, 11 inch double barrel. Is it legal to hunt upland birds with it in California? Thank you.
    Idiots with guns make me nervous. Charles Bronson as Murphy
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    NapalmCheese
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2011
    • 5954

    311(c) makes it explicitly legal to hunt small game (upland game birds included) with a muzzle loading shotgun.

    Is it really 11 inches long? Nothing specifies a barrel length if I recall in the rules.
    Calguns.net, where everyone responding to your post is a Navy Force Delta Recon 6 Sniperator.

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    • #3
      bobcat
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 58

      Thank you, yes it is 11 inches long. It is a muzzle loader shotgun pistol.
      Idiots with guns make me nervous. Charles Bronson as Murphy

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      • #4
        L-2
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 1335

        Last edited by L-2; 04-14-2022, 9:56 AM.
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        • #5
          bobcat
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 58

          Napalmcheese, I found the info I was looking for; thanks to you. 507.-3 hunting upland birds, muzzle loader shotgun.
          Idiots with guns make me nervous. Charles Bronson as Murphy

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            edgerly779
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2009
            • 19871

            Just get steel shot.

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            • #7
              bobcat
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 58

              Yes, I got steel shot. Thank you!
              Idiots with guns make me nervous. Charles Bronson as Murphy

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              • #8
                W.R.Buchanan
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 3380

                I think that is a Howdah Pistol used on the platform atop of Elephants while hunting Tigers in India as a last chance gun in case the Tiger decided to come aboard and eat you.

                Randy
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                • #9
                  edgerly779
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 19871

                  I have fffg in sales section

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                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30242

                    Fish & Game Code 2002
                    It is unlawful to possess a bird, mammal, fish, reptile, amphibian, or part of any of those animals, taken in violation of this code or a regulation adopted pursuant to this code.

                    California Code of Regulations Title 14 Division 1 Subdivision 2 Chapter 1 Section 250.1
                    Prohibition on the Use of Lead Projectiles and Ammunition Using Lead Projectiles for the Take of Wildlife.
                    (a) Purpose. This regulation phases in the requirements of Fish and Game Code Section 3004.5, which prohibits the use of any lead projectiles or ammunition containing lead projectiles when taking any wildlife with a firearm on or after July 1, 2019.
                    (b) Definitions.
                    (1) A projectile is any bullet, ball, sabot, slug, buckshot, shot, pellet or other device that is expelled from a firearm through a barrel by force.
                    (2) Nonlead ammunition is any centerfire, shotgun, muzzleloading, or rimfire ammunition containing projectiles certified pursuant to subsection (b)(3) or subsection (f).
                    (d) Phased Approach to Prohibit the Use of Lead Ammunition for the Take of Wildlife. The use of lead projectiles is authorized until the effective dates described in subsections (d)(1), (d)(2), and (d)(3).
                    (3) Effective July 1, 2019, it shall be unlawful to use, or possess with any firearm capable of firing, any projectile(s) not certified as nonlead when taking any wildlife for any purpose in this state.

                    California Code of Regulations Title 14 Division 1 Subdivision 2 Chapter 2 Section 311
                    Methods Authorized for Taking Resident Small Game.
                    The take or attempted take of any resident small game with a firearm shall be in accordance with the use of nonlead projectiles and ammunition pursuant to Section 250.1. Only the following may be used to take resident small game:
                    (c) Muzzle-loading shotguns.

                    California Code of Regulations Title 14 Division 1 Subdivision 2 Chapter 7 Section 507
                    Provisions Related to the Taking of Migratory Game Birds.
                    (a) Authorized Methods. Only the following methods may be used to take migratory game birds:
                    (3) Muzzle-loading Shotguns.
                    Last edited by Quiet; 04-27-2022, 10:01 AM.
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