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  • #16
    metalhead357
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2006
    • 5546

    hmmmmmmm, I still think one would be better served with one of those 'barrel squishers'. Anyone remember those? A choke that took the round bore to a rectangular one so that the shot would fan out?
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    • #17
      Pokey
      Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 495

      Originally posted by metalhead357
      hmmmmmmm, I still think one would be better served with one of those 'barrel squishers'. Anyone remember those? A choke that took the round bore to a rectangular one so that the shot would fan out?
      I think they were refered to as a 'duck bill" or "duck foot"
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      • #18
        Aluisious
        Banned
        • Nov 2006
        • 1934

        Originally posted by 50ae
        Because normal shotguns just aren't loud enough
        Once, a dude shot at me with a shotgun, and I got out from behind cover to yell "What? I can't hear you!"

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        • #19
          Aluisious
          Banned
          • Nov 2006
          • 1934

          Anyway...that product solves a problem that doesn't exist. If you can't hit someone across the room with an 18 inch barreled, shoulder mounted weapon, you really need to just place an artillery shell in the middle of the room and set that off for "home defense."

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          • #20
            maxicon
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 4661

            You could cut down a rifled slug barrel to HD length and get a similar effect - the rifling tends to spread shot a lot faster.

            You still have the basic problem of delivering a certain amount of terminal energy to disable a target. Too much spread and you're more likely to hit with some pellets, but maybe not enough, and the impacts would be spread all around.

            The basic rule still holds - it's shot placement that counts.

            max
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            • #21
              triaged
              Member
              • Feb 2004
              • 415

              Originally posted by maxicon
              You could cut down a rifled slug barrel to HD length and get a similar effect - the rifling tends to spread shot a lot faster.
              If it has a rifled barrel can you cut it down to 16" What is the legal difference between a rifled shotgun shooting slugs and a 44mag lever action shooting snake shot?

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              • #22
                Aluisious
                Banned
                • Nov 2006
                • 1934

                Originally posted by triaged71
                If it has a rifled barrel can you cut it down to 16" What is the legal difference between a rifled shotgun shooting slugs and a 44mag lever action shooting snake shot?
                Jail time?

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                • #23
                  M. Sage
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 19759

                  Originally posted by Aluisious
                  Anyway...that product solves a problem that doesn't exist. If you can't hit someone across the room with an 18 inch barreled, shoulder mounted weapon, you really need to just place an artillery shell in the middle of the room and set that off for "home defense."
                  Lol, no kidding. Hitting a target ten feet away with a long gun is almost too easy.

                  RE: Duckbills... they were actually pretty effective, but not really meant for indoors use.

                  I always thought the nice thing about buckshot wasn't that it was "easier" to hit a target... I always thought it was the multiple wounds caused. Put 'em all center mass next to each other (instead of spread all over the place), and serious damage happens.
                  Originally posted by Deadbolt
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                  • #24
                    triaged
                    Member
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 415

                    Originally posted by Aluisious
                    Jail time?
                    Note the bold

                    Originally posted by 12020 thru 12040 Unlawful Carrying and Possession
                    (c)(1) As used in this section, a "short-barreled shotgun" means any of the following:
                    (A) A firearm which is designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell and having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length.
                    (B) A firearm which has an overall length of less than 26 inches and which is designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell.
                    (C) Any weapon made from a shotgun (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length.
                    (D) Any device which may be readily restored to fire a fixed shotgun shell which, when so restored, is a device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C) inclusive.
                    .
                    .
                    .
                    (20) As used in this section, a "rifle" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.
                    (21) As used in this section, a "shotgun" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of projectiles (ball shot) or a single projectile for each pull of the trigger.
                    So what does this do to snake shot? Is that not a "shot shell"?
                    Last edited by triaged; 12-07-2006, 7:09 PM.

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                    • #25
                      kap
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1324

                      Originally posted by Socal858
                      i wouldnt trust buying gun parts from a dumb *** company that invented a step-open toilet seat. look through their links

                      they probably piss all over the bowl anyways.
                      Exactly what I was thinking. Especially since he called it the EZPZ.
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                      • #26
                        E. Fudd
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 632

                        Ya think they ripped off the idea from "No Time for Sergeants"?



                        Andy Griffith's character as "PLO" (Permanent Latrine Orderly) rigged a whole line of toilet seats that way to "salute" the general inspecting the barracks...

                        As to the Housegun, wonder how many 00 flyers will swisscheese apartment or house walls and pose a threat to neighbors and familly in the area...

                        What? No front sight?

                        Would be great for going after dem wascally wabbits tho'...

                        Elmer

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                        • #27
                          CWM4A1
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 1135

                          I don't know why, but as soon as I see this thing, Wild-E-Coyote, Road-runner, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck all run acorss my head with a big ACME sign with flashing bulb/neon lights jumping around... I just can't stop laughing....
                          NRA certified RSO, Pistol/Rifle/Personal Protection Inside The Home instructor, Certified SIG/Glock pistol armorer.

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                          • #28
                            Rob454
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 11254

                            Originally posted by M. Sage
                            At only a 75% loss in muzzle velocity...

                            "Imagine staring down a huge barrel..."

                            Umm... ask someone who got robbed at gunpoint how big the barrel of the gun shoved under their nose was. Odds are, they'll hold their hands up to show an impossible caliber. And that's HAND GUNS.

                            ...

                            LOL when I was 16 I used to work at this cowboy store where they sold Wranglers and cowboy boots and western wear. One night it was me and my manager ( girl). so this guy walks in and goes to get some wranglers. Comes up to the counter and puts them down. We exchange hellos and stuff then I tell him the cost and he said thats fine but I need the money in your register. I looked at him and said HUH. he wiggled something BETWEEN the wranglers ( he had two pairs) and I looked down to see the barrel of a gun. To me and my manager it looked liek a freaking howitzer. Anyway he got 130$ and got caught abotu 2 hrs later. the gun ended up being a .22.
                            When I was in the marines I had this one guy come out of a house and AIM right at me with a AK. as the barrel swung my way the hole got bigger and bigger and bigger in slow motion. .
                            having a gun pointed at you is NFFAT. ( no f*****g fun at all)

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                            • #29
                              STAGE 2
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 5907

                              Yet another answer to a problem that did not exist.
                              attorneys use a specific analytical framework beaten into the spot that used to house our common sense

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                              • #30
                                M. Sage
                                Moderator Emeritus
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 19759

                                Not from the creators' points of view.

                                "Problem: Wallet is too thin. Solution: Create a useless POS product that will probably be detrimental to performance in the intended use and market it to people who don't know any better."
                                Originally posted by Deadbolt
                                "We're here to take your land for your safety"

                                "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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