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  • CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44093

    Garden Guns

    ysr_racer says this place is dead so, let's talk Garden Guns and other sub gauge smoothbores.

    I'll start, while I have a couple others, I recently picked up a Henry's Garden Gun for fun and possibly a few night hunts for rats. I am really impressed with the smooth action of the Henry and, it will be my knock around rimfire smoothbore so I don't ding up my old Remington 121 Routledge which I acquired from Gene Autry's estate.

    Who else has sub gauge shotguns? 9mm? 32g, etc? How do you like them and, what do you use them for?
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    newbutold
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    • Jan 2017
    • 1952

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    • #3
      iwant22lr
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      • Jan 2014
      • 159

      How is accuracy on the Henry GG?

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      • #4
        CSACANNONEER
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        • Dec 2006
        • 44093

        Originally posted by iwant22lr
        How is accuracy on the Henry GG?
        .22lr doesn't pattern that great period. IT does better from a smoothbore but, it's still not consistent. As far as accuracy goes, it hits where I aim it. I've only shot it once. As soon as I picked it up, I headed home and stopped on the property to run 20 rounds through it before I drove the last 1/2 to my abode. That said, I shouldn't have too much trouble breaking clays with it after getting over the sights instead of a bead. Yes, it can be done. My .22lr Rem 121 with a Routledge barrel has broken clays on a skeet and straight aways with a thrower basically next to me.
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        • #5
          TAS
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          • Jun 2009
          • 1268

          Are there any manufacturers making current garden guns? I’ve read about them and find them interesting but have never seen one in the wild.
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          • #6
            71MUSTY
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2014
            • 7029

            Only smooth bore I got is a Stevens Favorite #19. Not so much a garden gun but I suppose it would work


            Long before the Ruger semi-automatic 10/22 and even before the Marlin 1897 lever-action, but appearing just after the Winchester 1890 pump, there was the Stevens Favorite.
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            • #7
              Ducky's Dad
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 737

              Ruger Super Single Six with .22LR snake loads for close-in work on mice and rats. Does that count?

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              • #8
                k1dude
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                • May 2009
                • 15210

                I have a smoothbore .22 airgun shotgun for li'l critters.

                Shoots 22 cal. shotshells filled with #9 shot.
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                  CSACANNONEER
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44093

                  Originally posted by k1dude
                  I have a smoothbore .22 airgun shotgun for li'l critters.

                  Shoots 22 cal. shotshells filled with #9 shot.
                  The Gamo one? I have one of those somewhere around here. The ammo is/was expensive but, no matter what "they" say, it can be easily reloaded,
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                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 44093

                    Marlin made a couple bolt actions in the 1980's. They aren't that hard to find. Henry's is currently making a .22 smothbore lever action.

                    Originally posted by 71MUSTY
                    Only smooth bore I got is a Stevens Favorite #19. Not so much a garden gun but I suppose it would work


                    https://www.americanrifleman.org/con...avorite-no-17/
                    Nice, I'm assuming yours was manufactured as a smoothbore and not just a worn out barrel.
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                    • #11
                      k1dude
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                      • May 2009
                      • 15210

                      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                      The Gamo one? I have one of those somewhere around here. The ammo is/was expensive but, no matter what "they" say, it can be easily reloaded,
                      Yup. I still haven't shot it though.
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                      • #12
                        deadcoyote
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                        • Apr 2010
                        • 4002

                        Random question-slash-idea: all of the .410 novelty revolvers advertise that you can shoot .45 colt out of them as well. If you were to acquire a sxs stoeger uplander or other break action smoothbore .410, could you run .45 volt shotshells in them?
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                        • #13
                          ceh383
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                          • Jul 2013
                          • 2536

                          You might be able to but, I think you would have pressure issues. SAAMI max pressure for a 3" .410 is 13,500 psi. The .45 Colt shot shells are 16,000 psi and up. Will your gun blow up? Probably not, but its life span will be greatly reduced.

                          Try it at your own risk.
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                          • #14
                            TMB 1
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 7153

                            Originally posted by deadcoyote
                            Random question-slash-idea: all of the .410 novelty revolvers advertise that you can shoot .45 colt out of them as well. If you were to acquire a sxs stoeger uplander or other break action smoothbore .410, could you run .45 volt shotshells in them?
                            No, 410 bore is smaller than 45 Colt's bullets. The firearms made to shoot both have bores for 45cal bullet. The 410 works in them because the base of 410 wad expands to in larger bore.
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                            • #15
                              71MUSTY
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                              • Mar 2014
                              • 7029

                              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                              Marlin made a couple bolt actions in the 1980's. They aren't that hard to find. Henry's is currently making a .22 smothbore lever action.



                              Nice, I'm assuming yours was manufactured as a smoothbore and not just a worn out barrel.
                              Yep, It was my Grandfathers, my dad learned to shoot with it as a kid. Hung on Dad's wall most of my life. I got it because big brother assumed the smooth bore was because it was worn out.

                              After some research I found it was made that way and after a trip to a good gunsmith I found it is safe to shoot.

                              Actually have never shot it though. It's worth more to me as the gun Dad learned to shoot as a kid.
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                              Originally posted by epilepticninja
                              Americans vs. Democrats
                              We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                              We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                              What doesn't kill me, better run

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