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  • CAUS
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2021
    • 20

    Three Amigos: Benelli M4, Beretta 1301, Mossberg 590A1

    I finally got an Enhanced Beretta 1301 Tactical to go with my Benelli M4 and Mossberg 590A1 SPX. I tried to set up the Beretta 1301 and Benelli M4 as similarly as possible. Although I am not new to Beretta 1301, owning it allows me to do more experiments. Here are my findings. Please take them with a grain of salt, since I am sure that I am biased.

    (1) Beretta 1301 is lighter. However, with 7+1 rounds in the tube, flashlight and even the side saddle, the weight difference between Beretta 1301 and Benelli M4 doesn't matter much to me.

    (2) It's easier to load Beretta 1301 for sure. I never had thumb bites with Benelli M4 as some people said. But, I got a few thumb bites while loading Beretta 1301. I am used to push hard while loading Benelli M4. I pushed too hard while loading Beretta 1301. My thumb got into the mag tube too deeply. It caused the thumb bites when I pulled out my thumb. So, this is my fault, not Beretta's. Why does Benelli make it so hard to load? Well, if you drop the shotgun from 5 feet above, no shell would come out of the mag tube and cause malfunction. It might be ok with Beretta 1301. But, I am not sure about Mossberg 590A1, which is way too easy to load. But, 590A1 is a pump shotgun. If a shell accidently comes out of the mag tube, you just lose a round and wouldn't have a big problem.

    (3) Benelli M4 loading port is longer than Beretta 1301 Tactical loading port. It's more like Beretta 1301 Comp Pro. That's why I didn't end up buying Beretta 1301 Comp Pro for its longer receiver.

    (4) The build quality of Benelli M4 is better than Beretta 1301, if not way better. Benelli M4 also uses a simpler "short-stroke" gas piston, compared to Beretta's complicated "long-stroke" gas piston. The general rule in Physics says that, the simpler and lighter the moving parts are, the more stable and reliable the system is. I will take both shotguns apart and post some photos later for you to compare.

    Don't get me wrong. I still like my Beretta 1301 a lot. It'd probably be my first choice for home defense. If I go to a real combat like John Wick, I will take Benelli M4. For the end of the world, well, Mossberg M590A1 is more appropriate, since you have to use whatever shells you can find and you don't want to fire rapidly to waste ammo. Besides, even if you break a part or two, Mossberg 5901A1 might still work!

    Happy Thanksgiving!
    Last edited by CAUS; 11-28-2021, 6:11 PM.
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    W.R.Buchanan
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 3368

    How many rounds have you fired thru these guns?

    How many Tactical Shotgun Classes have you gone to?

    Just curious as you have about $4K tied up in guns, thought that you should know how to use them?

    Randy
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    • #3
      7.62user
      Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 281

      Question for you all. I have M1 and new Super Nova. M1 kicks like a mother****er but Super Nova is smoth. I shoot 100 rounds of slugs ans 100 round of buckshot thrue super nova and not a mark on my shoulder.
      Do I need a new m4? Is m4 that much smoother compare to M1. Money is no issues. I just dont want anothert punishing shootgun!

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      • #4
        Oceanbob
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2010
        • 12719

        May the Bridges I burn light the way.

        Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

        Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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        • #5
          HKAllTheThings
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2020
          • 1313

          I thought this thread was about that Jessica Hook video

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          • #6
            Oceanbob
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2010
            • 12719

            Originally posted by 7.62user
            Question for you all. I have M1 and new Super Nova. M1 kicks like a mother****er but Super Nova is smoth. I shoot 100 rounds of slugs ans 100 round of buckshot thrue super nova and not a mark on my shoulder.
            Do I need a new m4? Is m4 that much smoother compare to M1. Money is no issues. I just dont want anothert punishing shootgun!
            Seriously the 1301 can be shot one handed. This little girl handles it.



            Plenty of videos on the 1301….here’s one I enjoyed…
            Why the 1301 is the best shotgun for the money
            Last edited by Oceanbob; 11-23-2021, 5:28 PM. Reason: Best for the money
            May the Bridges I burn light the way.

            Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

            Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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            • #7
              CAUS
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2021
              • 20

              Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan
              How many rounds have you fired thru these guns?

              How many Tactical Shotgun Classes have you gone to?

              Just curious as you have about $4K tied up in guns, thought that you should know how to use them?

              Randy
              I shot MANY rounds through M4 and 590A1. Not so many for 1301 yet. Courses, yes. Real combat, no. So, I am just a serious amateur.
              Last edited by CAUS; 11-23-2021, 4:29 PM. Reason: Typo

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              • #8
                CAUS
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2021
                • 20

                Originally posted by Oceanbob
                Seriously the 1301 can be shot one handed. This little girl handles it.

                https://youtu.be/RI9wCsFKW9E

                For hot shells, Benelli M4 has softer recoil than Beretta 1301. The little girl shot 1301 with a metal stick against the stock! Not on her shoulder.

                The title of the second video is "This is the Best Shotgun for the Money". You missed the part "for the Money".

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                • #9
                  Oceanbob
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 12719

                  Originally posted by CAUS
                  For hot shells, Benelli M4 has softer recoil than Beretta 1301. The little girl shot 1301 with a metal stick against the stock! Not on her shoulder.

                  The title of the second video is "This is the Best Shotgun for the Money". You missed the part "for the Money".




                  May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                  Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                  Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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                  • #10
                    Vinnie Boombatz
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2020
                    • 3036

                    I have a 1301 and 590A1 SPX.

                    the 590A1 SPX is a boat anchor in comparison with a much longer LOP.

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                    • #11
                      Oceanbob
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 12719

                      May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                      Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                      Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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                      • #12
                        sigstroker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 19401

                        Originally posted by 7.62user
                        Question for you all. I have M1 and new Super Nova. M1 kicks like a mother****er but Super Nova is smoth. I shoot 100 rounds of slugs ans 100 round of buckshot thrue super nova and not a mark on my shoulder.
                        Do I need a new m4? Is m4 that much smoother compare to M1. Money is no issues. I just dont want anothert punishing shootgun!
                        M1 is inertia driven, and yeah, kicks pretty good with heavy loads. Haven't shot an M4 but it's supposed to be comparable with a Remington 1100, which I used to own. My 1100 didn't even have a recoil pad, just a plastic butt plate, and it shot pretty soft.

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                        • #13
                          Mute
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 8531

                          Originally posted by Oceanbob
                          This pretty much reflects my own experiences with the M4 and the 1301.
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                          • #14
                            Thefeeder
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 5004

                            Originally posted by 7.62user
                            Question for you all. I have M1 and new Super Nova. M1 kicks like a mother****er but Super Nova is smoth. I shoot 100 rounds of slugs ans 100 round of buckshot thrue super nova and not a mark on my shoulder.
                            Do I need a new m4? Is m4 that much smoother compare to M1. Money is no issues. I just dont want anothert punishing shootgun!
                            To fix the M1 you need to to modify it to fit you like the Nova. Turned my M2 from a kicking mule to comfortable. I shoot 1 1/4oz loads going 1700fps through it 95% of the time and shoot lots of them in one morning

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                            • #15
                              hunterb
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 3794

                              Had a Benelli M4. Spent all sorts of money pimping it out...scalarworks flush mount for RMR, surefire railed foreend, scout light, carrier comp tube, urbino stock, etc etc. Sold it and bought a 1301. Only mod is an extended tube. Live and learn.
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