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  • MasterYong
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 2724

    Never owned a shotgun before...

    So... I'm about to purchase my first shotgun. I own probably 15 or so rifles, and 4 handguns, plus a bunch my GF has so I'm very familiar with firearms.

    Familiar with shotguns, however, I am NOT.

    I'm purchasing an 870 Marine Magnum. It has the extended tube, and an aftermarket stock/pistol grip. Other than that I believe it's the stock Marine Magnum.

    What do I need to know about shotguns? Obviously I'll understand the manual of arms, safe operation, etc before I leave the store- but does anyone have any pointers for a new shotgun owner? Are there any good pages for practicing accuracy? How does someone do target practice typically (like in a range setting) with a shotgun other than clay shooting?

    What do I need to know about ammo? It's a 12 gauge, but other than that I know very little about ammo for shotguns and what is/is not compatible. I'm 99% sure the shop owner said that it's a rifled barrel so you'd use smooth slugs or shot, but it may be the other way around. I'll be sure to find out for certain before I take it home though.

    I'm doing the DROS today so I have 10 days to get up to speed.

    SCHOOL ME!!!
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    JeffM
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 4359

    1. Don't call it a "shottie"

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    • #3
      Z ME FLY
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2008
      • 6590

      what exactly did you buy the shotgun for? that is probably the most important thing. I personally would have passed on a marine shotgun. If it is a rifled barrel shotgun, I believe you can ONLY shot smooth slugs not shot. I believe someone here on calguns schooled me and said that the shot would mess up the rifling. If it is a smooth barrel shotgun you can shoot shot and slugs because I do with my 590.

      How much did your shotgun cost you after tax and dros?
      Originally posted by 69Mach1
      The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

      Originally posted by 69Mach1
      Z gets around. lol

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      • #4
        Vacaville
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 4360

        Originally posted by Z ME FLY
        what exactly did you buy the shotgun for? that is probably the most important thing. I personally would have passed on a marine shotgun. If it is a rifled barrel shotgun, I believe you can ONLY shot smooth slugs not shot. I believe someone here on calguns schooled me and said that the shot would mess up the rifling. If it is a smooth barrel shotgun you can shoot shot and slugs because I do with my 590.

        How much did your shotgun cost you after tax and dros?
        Well if that's true that's some schooling right there!

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        • #5
          Millions-Knives
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 623

          Buckshot, birdshot and slugs or hulls loaded with pepper corns. Choose your poison. Really, there aren't any limits on a 12ga tactical length in regards to ammunition, just don't drop a 20ga in the chamber on accident. Unless you're into 3-gun, or some kind of tactics training classes- I don't take my 18" 870 to the range at all, fun is in the clay games.
          John

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          • #6
            Z ME FLY
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2008
            • 6590

            Originally posted by Vacaville
            Well if that's true that's some schooling right there!
            Yeah IDK if that's true or not?! If someone wants to reverse that, that's fine with me.
            Originally posted by 69Mach1
            The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

            Originally posted by 69Mach1
            Z gets around. lol

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            • #7
              Z ME FLY
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2008
              • 6590

              Found the answer and it says as long as it is lead then it will be fine although maybe not the best idea.

              Test from box O truth

              Last edited by Z ME FLY; 06-22-2009, 2:25 PM.
              Originally posted by 69Mach1
              The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

              Originally posted by 69Mach1
              Z gets around. lol

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              • #8
                Netlemming
                Member
                • May 2009
                • 279

                The Marine is a variation of the 870. I was in the same boat. I bought an 870 Tactical this past Saturday; will be picking it up next week. I intend to break in the gun with about 100 rounds of the Federal "top gun, target load." They are relatively inexpensive shells.

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                • #9
                  tombinghamthegreat
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2785

                  Originally posted by JeffM
                  1. Don't call it a "shottie"
                  Almost as bad as mall ninjas at the gun range calling a desert eagle "degeal"(from counter strike)
                  "Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense." Ron Paul
                  "The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." - Thomas Jefferson
                  Originally posted by forumguy
                  The same way they enforce all the rest of the BS laws. Only criminals are exempt, while the honest obey.
                  Originally posted by bwiese
                  Sometimes I think the function of Calguns is half to refute bad info from gunshops and half to refute bad info from DOJ.

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                  • #10
                    MasterYong
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 2724

                    I could be wrong about the whole rifled/not rifled barrel thing. I'm 99% sure the shop owner said that it will shoot both slugs and shot, as he was recommending 00 buck for home defense.

                    I own most of my guns for two of several reasons:
                    -Home defense
                    -Sport
                    -Hunting
                    -Fun (I like shooting a LOT)

                    This shotgun would be intended for home defense and fun (i.e. shooting while camping etc). Mostly for home defense, and to "round out the collection" (I know, that's a cop-out). Gotta have at least one shotgun, right?

                    Z ME FLY:

                    1. Why would you have passed on the marine magnum? That part of the comment doesn't help without background info!

                    2. It should be under $700 after DROS and tax. The tag says $799 (I haven't purchased it yet, but I will right after work that's why I worded the post the way I did) but the owner always gives me a really great deal, customer loyalty certainly has it's perks when you're in the right store! Based on my typical discount though I doubt it's be over $700.
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                    • #11
                      JeffM
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 4359

                      Originally posted by tombinghamthegreat
                      Almost as bad as mall ninjas at the gun range calling a desert eagle "degeal"(from counter strike)
                      Haha. I wondered where that came from (don't play counterstrike) but that has bothered me too.

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                      • #12
                        MasterYong
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 2724

                        Originally posted by JeffM
                        1. Don't call it a "shottie"
                        I wasn't gonna- I swear!

                        Can I call it a "scattergun" though? I always that that sounded better than a shotgun, like saying "wheelgun" instead of revolver. maybe I'm confusing what these two things are though...
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                        • #13
                          Z ME FLY
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6590

                          The reason why I would pass on a marine is because
                          it's a pistol grip only shotgun.
                          it's about $700 for a pump shotgun

                          IF I had $700 to burn, I would get a semi auto shotgun. I would personally get a Saiga 12. Look up info on it there is tons on this board. If you want fun, the saiga 12 is where it is at. Maybe look into a Benelli or Mossberg semis. $700 is just way too much for a pump shotgun and I find the pistol grip only shotguns not that handy. I had one and put the wood stock back on.
                          Originally posted by 69Mach1
                          The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

                          Originally posted by 69Mach1
                          Z gets around. lol

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                          • #14
                            JeffM
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 4359

                            Originally posted by MasterYong
                            I wasn't gonna- I swear!

                            Can I call it a "scattergun" though? I always that that sounded better than a shotgun, like saying "wheelgun" instead of revolver. maybe I'm confusing what these two things are though...
                            "scattergun" is a bit on the tacticool side, but it doesn't seem to bother many.

                            Look up the company "Scattergun Technologies"

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                            • #15
                              Z ME FLY
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6590

                              If you want to hunt, I'm sure you would want a full stock also.
                              Originally posted by 69Mach1
                              The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

                              Originally posted by 69Mach1
                              Z gets around. lol

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