Pointer Pup

[boattail]

Anyone here have a Pup? A lady friend wanted a 410 and the only thing I could find her at the time was a Pup. She has to two hand it to open the barrel and cock it. That cocking lever on a "youth" gun is kinda silly as it takes a grown man to operate it. Long story short I found her another gun and will be taking the Pup off her hands. I'm looking for more choke tubes and if all the Pups are hard to open/reset.
TIA.

[REDHORSE]

Someone say Pointer Pups?. This was what I was thinking when I saw the thread title. I got two pups from this litter 10 years ago from a CalGuns breeder.


Looking for another GSP pup.

[ceh383]

Generally speaking, new break action guns are stiff to open. They will lighten up after some use.

[boattail]

Generally speaking, new break action guns are stiff to open. They will lighten up after some use.

This pointer pup is hammerless and uses a cocking lever to open the action and cock the main spring at the same time. Once cocked the action opens with little effort, but after a shot it is a stiff pull to get the action opened and the firing pin spring recocked.

[ceh383]

This pointer pup is hammerless and uses a cocking lever to open the action and cock the main spring at the same time.

Typical for most break action guns, all of mine work that way.

Once cocked the action opens with little effort, but after a shot it is a stiff pull to get the action opened and the firing pin spring recocked.

Check for drag marks on the fired shell from the firing pin. If there are marks you could have a firing pin that is too long. Or grunge in the firing pin bore or a weak/broken pin spring.
If no marks are present give it a few hundred rounds to break in.

[boattail]

Typical for most break action guns, all of mine work that way.

Check for drag marks on the fired shell from the firing pin. If there are marks you could have a firing pin that is too long. Or grunge in the firing pin bore or a weak/broken pin spring.
If no marks are present give it a few hundred rounds to break in.

I should have elaborated more on the stiff opening.....it's the lever that is so hard to pull back. Once the lever is back the action opens fine. There is just 20-30 pounds of force needed to pull the lever.

[JagerDog]

This pointer pup is hammerless and uses a cocking lever to open the action and cock the main spring at the same time. Once cocked the action opens with little effort, but after a shot it is a stiff pull to get the action opened and the firing pin spring recocked.

Typical for most break action guns, all of mine work that way.

Check for drag marks on the fired shell from the firing pin. If there are marks you could have a firing pin that is too long. Or grunge in the firing pin bore or a weak/broken pin spring.
If no marks are present give it a few hundred rounds to break in.

Actually, opening the action fully cocks the hammers on most O/U's. The lever just unlocks the breach.

[boattail]

Actually, opening the action fully cocks the hammers on most O/U's. The lever just unlocks the breach.

On the Pointer there is no standard sideways operating lever, its a trigger like lever in front of the trigger guard that resets the trigger first then opens the action at the very end of the pull. It would have been nice to have the standard type of reset with the action opening doing that work, not your trigger finger having to pull 20-30 pounds of force.

[JagerDog]

On the Pointer there is no standard sideways operating lever, its a trigger like lever in front of the trigger guard that resets the trigger first then opens the action at the very end of the pull. It would have been nice to have the standard type of reset with the action opening doing that work, not your trigger finger having to pull 20-30 pounds of force.

Understood. Certainly unique and NOT like most.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Can we get a picture of this gun? I've never heard of it.

Randy

[L-2]

Weblink for subject Pointer-brand "Pup":

https://www.legacysports.com/brands/pointer/pups-2/

[boattail]

Can we get a picture of this gun? I've never heard of it.

Randy

This is the one.....that lever in front of the trigger guard resets the trigger spring and then opens the action second.....20-30 pounds of force needed to open the action after firing it.

[W.R.Buchanan]

OK? Probably not going on my most wanted list. I have an M6 Scout that is a little more usable. I carry it in my Jeep just so I'd have something if I needed it.

Randy