Non Toxic Shotgun Slugs.

[W.R.Buchanan]

In case you haven't been paying attention I manufacture CA Certified Non Toxic
12 ga shotgun slugs which produce excellent accuracy from Rifled Barrel Shotguns.

Bob: here's some pics of what you get.







These are NOT loaded ammo you only get the slug and new Rio Hull. You add powder and roll crimp closed.

Just showing someone what's available.

Randy

[PaperTarget]

Bob may pay attention, I don't.

Randy, Good looking shells. Hollow point? Cost ballpark?

[whutsup40]

Non toxic because we don't want to pollute the bad guy's?

[BOBGBA]

...Bob: here's some pics of what you get...

Thanks, Randy.

Bob may pay attention...

I do, but I don't alway's retain the info...

Non toxic because we don't want to pollute the bad guy's?

They are already polluted. As you probably alredy know, these are for hunting.

[NapalmCheese]

In case you haven't been paying attention I manufacture CA Certified Non Toxic
12 ga shotgun slugs which produce excellent accuracy from Rifled Barrel Shotguns.

20 gauge, perhaps minus the hulls, would be more interesting to me.

[BajaJames83]

how much are they ?

[W.R.Buchanan]

$25 for 5 ea. slugs and five new primed hulls.

Sorry I don't do 20 ga. I could, but I'd have no way to test them as I don't have a 20 ga Shotgun.

Randy

[NapalmCheese]

$25 for 5 ea. slugs and five new primed hulls.

Sorry I don't do 20 ga. I could, but I'd have no way to test them as I don't have a 20 ga Shotgun.

Randy

Such is life. I'm going to try 3d printing 20 gauge sabots formed to fit Barnes bullets and see where it goes. I might have some problems with the thermoplastic melting in the bore, or I might not. Time will tell.

Options for lead free 20 gauge sabot or full bore slugs are rather limited.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Go to Slugsrus.com You can buy 20 ga versions of the sabot I use.

Save yourself a bunch time and energy. These actually work.

If you don't have a Rifled Barrel for your shotgun you are wasting your time as the accuracy will be minute of Large Pumpkin at 50 yards.

Also if you don't get them certified by F&W and get caught hunting with them,,, you go to jail.

That's why I went thru the certification process to get on the list.

Barnes doesn't make a shotgun slug. Even Brenneke who makes non toxic Shotgun ammo isn't on the list.

Most outfits don't even know about the list. I wouldn't have either if I hadn't persisted until I got ahold of someone at F&W that would actually answer my questions. That took two full days of phone calls until I finally got thru to someone with a brain that would actually do his job! Thank You Todd!

I got the runaround from no less than 50 people shuffling me off to this guy or that guy none of which would even answer their phones or return calls.

Incidentally my price on these is about 1/2 what it should be considering the BS I had to go thru to make them available.

Randy

[NapalmCheese]

Go to Slugsrus.com You can buy 20 ga versions of the sabot I use.

If you don't have a Rifled Barrel for your shotgun you are wasting your time as the accuracy will be minute of Large Pumpkin at 50 yards.

Barnes doesn't make a shotgun slug. Even Brenneke who makes non toxic Shotgun ammo isn't on the list.

I'll check out slugsrus.com, thanks for the tip.

While Barnes does not produce a shotgun slug, Barnes DOES produce .45 caliber expanding bullets meant for the .458 socom and .450 bushmaster which could be wrapped in a sabot and (given that Federal is able to do this) launched at 1900 fps or so. That is assuming there's a sabot that fits.

And yes, this would be meant for a rifled barrel. I have little interest in shooting slugs down a smoothbore. At the ranges for which they are accurate I'll just use my bow.

[Ducky's Dad]

For 20 ga non-tox slugs, look at the Barnes Spit Fire TE-Z Muzzleloader slugs. Solid copper with a poly tip, .451 diameter, 250 or 290 grain. Barnes says they are listed on the Cal DFW website as legal for non-tox hunting. Barnes also offers loaded copper slugs in 12 and 20, but no 12 ga bare slugs (yet).

https://www.barnesbullets.com/muzzleloaders/spit-fire-t-ez/

https://www.barnesbullets.com/ammunition/vor-tx-expander-slug/

If you really have your heart set on loading your own 12ga slugs, you could also buy the Barnes rounds and disassemble them to get the slugs.

[Boarhuntor]

Such is life. I'm going to try 3d printing 20 gauge sabots formed to fit Barnes bullets and see where it goes. I might have some problems with the thermoplastic melting in the bore, or I might not. Time will tell.

Options for lead-free 20 gauge sabot or full bore slugs are rather limited.

The guy who sold you this 20GA shotgun very successfully used Federal sabots and killed multiple pigs out of this gun. I personally witnessed it. Also, they are very accurate. The last one he killed was more than 100 yards of hand running pig.
Anything wrong with Fed sabots? They are available and the amount of them you need each year makes reloading and experimenting just a waste of time JMO and $0.02.

Also, I think Rem and Win make 20GA in lead free.
I had great success with Win but it was 12 GA. 1.5 MOA out of my Mos 500. And they are $15-15 for 5 LOADED, not some lego you need to assemble.

Just KISS
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Remington has it in 20 Gauge 2-3/4" 5/8 Oz Copper Solid Sabot Slug

https://www.campingworld.com/remington-premier-expander-copper-solid-sabot-slugs-20-ga.-2-34-250-gr.-200137.html

Federal call it Trophy Copper Sabot Slug 20 Gauge

https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/federal-premium-vital-shok-trophy-polymer-tipped-sabot-slug-shotshells

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[Ducky's Dad]

Hell, what's wrong with just buying factory Remington copper sabots?

[edgerly779]

How much for 5? oH i SEE 25vbucks for 5. I will stick with duplex hexolits

[NapalmCheese]

The guy who sold you this 20GA shotgun very successfully used Federal sabots and killed multiple pigs out of this gun. I personally witnessed it. Also, they are very accurate. The last one he killed was more than 100 yards of hand running pig.
Anything wrong with Fed sabots? They are available and the amount of them you need each year makes reloading and experimenting just a waste of time JMO and $0.02.

Nothing wrong with them at all, and they are indeed available and I'm planning on carrying that gun and those rounds for a few weekends after duck season.

But here's the catch: I enjoy reloading and experimenting. That's pretty much it. I just like making stuff.

Why no one seems to offer a .451 or .458 ID, .617 OD sabot is beyond me.