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  • GarVeske22
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 14

    Freedom Fighter Tactical - Magazine Tube

    Picking up my new Benelli M4 on Tuesday and I'm already searching the interweb for goodies (922r compliant stuff). Was looking into the FFT full length magazine tube and came across their warning/notice message on the bottom right corner...



    "We have a TON of new tubes in production, but because of the Chinese Virus and everything associated with that, the January prediction on the next batch being ready is a prediction..."

    Is that a bit racist or am I overly sensitive? Anyway, any recommendations on other USA companies that make full length magazine tubes for the M4? Thanks.
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  • #2
    Boarhuntor
    Banned
    • Feb 2019
    • 760

    What is racist about it?
    Then having a black gun by a white men is racist as well?

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    • #3
      -hanko
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2002
      • 14174

      Cannot believe you are serious...

      ...as the virus was developed in China and developed by Chinese. You can call it anything you want but that doesn't change the location or the developer(s).

      "Racist" is in the eyes of the beholder. Did you happen to start the thread rant about GFOS not attending to a Chinese customer as quickly as the customer desired??

      In the 19CFR922(r) vein...

      ATF notes that 922(r) doesn't and never did apply to end users like you or me...it always was and is applicable to importers. You are not the importer, obviously. There has never been a BATFE complaint in that situation.

      The current Royal Tiger Imports was fined and shut down for a while...iirc for not replacing batches of imported gun parts with US parts. The owner changed the name from Inter Ordnance to Royal Tiger.
      Last edited by -hanko; 12-13-2020, 11:43 PM.
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      • #4
        robledor
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 789

        It is the Chinese virus. Don't be such a sensitive person don't be so PC.

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        • #5
          GarVeske22
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2017
          • 14

          An analysis of the expressions used by Donald Trump to designate Covid-19 sheds light on his political calculations and on the evolution of his relationship with China in recent weeks.

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          • #6
            yotdr
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2004
            • 54

            CNN; What's in a virus name?

            Infectious diseases throughout history have been named for geographic locations where they were thought to have originated: Spanish flu, West Nile virus, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, Zika and Ebola, to name a few.
            By that logic, it may seem that there's nothing inherently wrong with referring to the novel coronavirus as the "Wuhan virus" or the "Chinese virus," language which President Donald Trump has used and defended using. Wuhan is, after all, considered the first epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak that has since become a global pandemic.

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            • #7
              shovelon
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 1850

              Why can't they just list the alloy? Sounds like cheap bicycle grade straight tube, not heat treated, and cheap anodized. Sounds like Ti-3 Al-2. 5V . It is the aluminum that allows it to be anodized.

              But good on them for making it domestically and not in China.
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              • #8
                Corbin Dallas
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                • May 2006
                • 6149

                Originally posted by GarVeske22
                "We have a TON of new tubes in production, but because of the Chinese Virus and everything associated with that, the January prediction on the next batch being ready is a prediction..."

                Is that a bit racist or am I overly sensitive? Anyway, any recommendations on other USA companies that make full length magazine tubes for the M4? Thanks.

                You're exhibiting classic liberal tendencies. Just stop.

                No one complained about the Spanish flu and no, it's not racist too.


                Why don't you just buy the factory tube and be done with it?

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                • #9
                  eaglemike
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3914

                  Originally posted by GarVeske22
                  Nope, did not start any rants about any GFOS. Don’t know what that is. As for the 922r thing, my local FFL (in San Mateo county) told me that if I wanted to modify the M4 to have a hold a full magazine tube, I’d need to change three parts listed as acceptable parts based on 922r. He seems to know what he’s talking about, so I’ll just take his advice.

                  As for the FFT racist statement part, hate language works subtlety. And I suppose if you’re questioning why it’s racist, it’s probably because you are, even if it’s a little bit.

                  This link helps explain, if you care to read it.

                  An analysis of the expressions used by Donald Trump to designate Covid-19 sheds light on his political calculations and on the evolution of his relationship with China in recent weeks.


                  As for the extended magazine tube, I’ll just search the Benelli forums.
                  First of all, gun stores are notorious for giving out bad info. NOTORIOUS!
                  Second, an article deciding Trump is racist for this is just silly.
                  Viruses have been named after where they originated for pretty much forever - it's just someone making up another reason to dislike or hate Trump. (as noted above, Spanish Flu) In addition - what do you think MERS stands for? Look it up!

                  Good gracious!!!


                  ETA: Nordic Components has a good reputation for parts like this.
                  Last edited by eaglemike; 12-14-2020, 8:41 AM.
                  There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                  It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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                  • #10
                    millerfish
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 94

                    No! That is not racist!

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                    • #11
                      GarVeske22
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 14

                      Originally posted by eaglemike
                      First of all, gun stores are notorious for giving out bad info. NOTORIOUS!
                      Second, an article deciding Trump is racist for this is just silly.
                      Viruses have been named after where they originated for pretty much forever - it's just someone making up another reason to dislike or hate Trump. (as noted above, Spanish Flu) In addition - what do you think MERS stands for? Look it up!

                      Good gracious!!!


                      ETA: Nordic Components has a good reputation for parts like this.
                      I'm willing to bet those on here who say "Chinese Virus" it's not a racist/offensive statement is NOT an Asian-American. Pretty confident about that... Also, just because the naming of epidemics where done a certain way in the past doesn't make it the appropriate way of labeling things. Right? Something to think about. Or not.

                      Anyway, I sent a email to FFT, last night, saying it could be offensive to some and it was up to them what they wanted to do; free country and all. Todd replied this morning, agreed with me, and took down that "Chinese Virus" line on his website. He seems like a stand up guy. I no longer have issue with them. Their products look great.

                      I'll do business with them and order parts this month.

                      Nice recommendation on Nordic Components, but looks like their tubes only accommodate the Benelli M1 and M2.

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                      • #12
                        steveodevo
                        Member
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 212

                        mag tube

                        i got a carrier comp if your interested, best tube hands down

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                        • #13
                          GarVeske22
                          Junior Member
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 14

                          Originally posted by steveodevo
                          i got a carrier comp if your interested, best tube hands down
                          Vey nice. thank you for the rec.

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                          • #14
                            eaglemike
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3914

                            Originally posted by GarVeske22
                            I'm willing to bet those on here who say "Chinese Virus" it's not a racist/offensive statement is NOT an Asian-American. Pretty confident about that... Also, just because the naming of epidemics where done a certain way in the past doesn't make it the appropriate way of labeling things. Right? Something to think about. Or not.

                            Anyway, I sent a email to FFT, last night, saying it could be offensive to some and it was up to them what they wanted to do; free country and all. Todd replied this morning, agreed with me, and took down that "Chinese Virus" line on his website. He seems like a stand up guy. I no longer have issue with them. Their products look great.

                            I'll do business with them and order parts this month.

                            Nice recommendation on Nordic Components, but looks like their tubes only accommodate the Benelli M1 and M2.
                            Some people are determined to find racism. In anything. No need for that.
                            Would a certain kind of walnut, from Brazil, be named a Brazilian Walnut? Similar thing- that's where it came from. Chinese virus came from China originally. No racism involved. Middle East Respiratory Syndrome - came from the middle east. No racism.
                            If one is treated differently due to their race, that would be racism.
                            Lots of good shotgun parts around. Again, don't trust what the local gun store tells you unless you can verify it in at least a couple of other ways.
                            There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                            It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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                            • #15
                              stormvet
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 12569

                              Only to a prog is the truth racist...COVID 19 originated in China, thus China flu is accurate and certainly not racist.

                              But I’ll cut the OP some slack looks like he’s from Frisco, hard to really grasp truth and reason when you live in opposite world.
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