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  • ManWithNoName
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2020
    • 9

    NFA

    Hello, I found a deal on a NFA Vepr 12 with a short barrel from an online FFL out of state for around $3k. Can I own this in California and what is the process for me purchasing an NFA item? Thanks in advance
  • #2
    Mac Attack
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 2126

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    • #3
      Master_Prestige
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2019
      • 1016

      Keep dreaming

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      • #4
        champu
        CGN Contributor
        • Nov 2013
        • 1981

        Originally posted by ManWithNoName
        Hello, I found a deal on a NFA Vepr 12 with a short barrel from an online FFL out of state for around $3k. Can I own this in California and what is the process for me purchasing an NFA item? Thanks in advance
        You need a California Dangerous Weapons Permit

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          Originally posted by ManWithNoName
          Hello, I found a deal on a NFA Vepr 12 with a short barrel from an online FFL out of state for around $3k. Can I own this in California and what is the process for me purchasing an NFA item? Thanks in advance
          NFA firearms can not be legally transferred without BATFE approval and typically require the use of a FFL/SOT to transfer the NFA firearm.

          A CA resident that submits a Form 4 for a SBS will not be approved by the BATFE, unless the applicant has a valid CA DOJ Dangerous Weapons Permit for a SBS.

          CA DOJ will not issue a Dangerous Weapons Permit (DWP) for a SBS, unless the applicant has a good cause for issuance.

          Under CA laws, there are only two valid good causes for issuance for a DWP for SBR/SBS:
          1. To import, make, and transfer to Gov/Mil/LE agencies.
          2. For use as a prop in the entertainment industry (movie/tv).

          In addition to paying an annual fee to maintain the DWP, the DWP holder is subject to annual compliance inspection audits.

          All dangerous weapons in the DWP holder's inventory needs to be registered with CA DOJ.
          All locations where the dangerous weapons will be stored needs to be registered with CA DOJ.
          All vehicles that will be used to transport the dangerous weapons needs to be registered with CA DOJ.

          Storing in a non-registered location and/or transporting in a non-registered vehicle is grounds for permit revocation and having the entire inventory confiscated.

          Using the dangerous weapon beyond the scope of the good cause for issuance of the permit is grounds for permit revocation and having the entire inventory confiscated.
          ^Beyond the scope equates to used in self-defense, target shooting, competition shooting, or recreational shooting.
          Last edited by Quiet; 11-02-2020, 6:12 PM.
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          • #6
            edgerly779
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2009
            • 19871

            Not a chance in Ca. Use search and find out why.

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            • #7
              Boarhuntor
              Banned
              • Feb 2019
              • 760

              Originally posted by Mac Attack
              If the shotgun is already a SBS then yhr dealer would submit a form 3 to transfer it to your local NFA dealer after which point you would need to submit an ATF form 4 on it, wait 6 - 12 months waiting for your stamp to get approved. The 2 form 4’s I just got back for 2 suppressors took 7 months. It takes less time to do form 1’s and make your own SBS as the 2 I did took 40 days and 17 days respectively.
              Originally posted by champu
              You need a California Dangerous Weapons Permit in addition to the NFA stamp. Note the “good cause” requirement on page three of the form.
              Originally posted by Quiet
              In addition to paying an annual fee to maintain the DWP, the DWP holder is subject to annual compliance inspection audits.

              All dangerous weapons in the DWP holder's inventory needs to be registered with CA DOJ.
              All locations where the dangerous weapons will be stored needs to be registered with CA DOJ.
              All vehicles that will be used to transport the dangerous weapons needs to be registered with CA DOJ.

              Storing in a non-registered location and/or transporting in a non-registered vehicle is grounds for permit revocation and having the entire inventory confiscated.

              Using the dangerous weapon beyond the scope of the good cause for issuance of the permit is grounds for permit revocation and having the entire inventory confiscated.
              ^Beyond the scope equates to used in self-defense, target shooting, competition shooting, or recreational shooting.
              Sounds easy enough, OP, you should go for it.

              ..

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              • #8
                eviioiive
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 1620

                No.
                Originally posted by Kestryll
                Your name has been publicly printed in newspapers and on the web, your expectation of privacy is flat gone.
                Originally posted by CALGUNS.NET
                You have been banned for the following reason: posting other member's personal info without permission. I don't care what your reasoning is that is not allowed.

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                • #9
                  ManWithNoName
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2020
                  • 9

                  Sounds like I will just go with the 18" inch barrel! Haha thank you guys for clearing that up!

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