12ga 00 buckshot defensive ammo

[Screagle]

[Gunsrruss]

00 buck

I have only regular 00 buck. If you are willing to break into my place I want you to get what you paid for.....now, defense ammo could be less powerful. My sister bought some of it before she died and it was a smaller round. That my friend is all I know. If the bad guys are outside trying to get in I want to be able to tear them up easily at 50 yards

[Bert Gamble]

What was the price difference? Defense ammo is much more expensive, like tactical or the one with the pretty lady on the front.

[003]

I just did a quick goggle search. I see no reason that the estate buckshot cannot be used in the same manner as all other buckshot loads.

If it is sold in the US, it meets Sammi (Sporting arms and ammunition manufacturers institute) spec's and should be GTG.

https://saami.org/

[Imageview]

They're both fine for self defense. LGS employees often give creative advice.

[SkyHawk]

I guarantee if you ask two bad guys who got shot, one with Estate and one with Fiocchi, they wouldn't be able to articulate any difference - if they could even talk at all.

My preferred defense load is Federal LE133, reduced recoil flight control 8 pellet, and close behind that is Federal LE132 flight control 9 pellet. You aren't going to find that right now. I would not turn my nose up at Estate though, would have no problem sleeping at night with that loaded.

[FeuerFrei]

Did the gun clerk have brown eyes? Because it sounds like he's full of sheet.

If you can find a quantity of ammo you need it's currently the best policy to buy right now and NEVER let this happen to you again. ALWAYS have a stash for emergency use. NO TOUCHY!!!

[newbutold]

Haven't needed to use my Rem 00 buck or slugs but confidant they will do the job.

[boopiejones]

I bought a bunch of the fiocci 00 because it was cheap and I needed a lot for a class. It cycled fine, but the pattern is not nearly as tight as federal 00 with flight control. When we were patterning our shotguns at the beginning of class, the fiocci was spreading all over the place. I could barely get all 9 pellets on paper at 25 yards. One of my classmates gave me a few of his federal flight control, and same gun, same choke, same distance I was patterning about the size of a fist.

[W.R.Buchanan]

If it says "00 Buckshot" on the package, and goes bang, it will do the job.

Here's the deal guys,,, You need to look at the package and see what the velocity is.

IF it is below 1300 fps it is "Low Recoil" or "Tactical" and will be relatively light recoiling. Same with slugs.

IF it says 1600 fps it is considered "High Base" and is pretty potent stuff, IE: it will kick the snot out of you !

You DON'T need Heavy loads for HD or really anything below big bears.

Hitting someone with Low Recoil Buck or Slugs at Conversational Distances will make just as big a mess as hitting them with Butt Kicker loads. It just won't hurt YOU as much.

Pay attention here because if you inadvertently fire a High Base Round when you are only prepared for a Light One,,,, You will experience pain!!! Been there done that!

Randy

['ol shooter]

I tried S&B low recoil 00 buck and liked it well enough to buy a case.

[sigstroker]

Buckshot is buckshot. Inside a house the pattern will be 2 to 3 inches.

[PaperTarget]

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Here's the deal guys,,, You need to look at the package and see what the velocity is.

IF it is below 1300 fps it is "Low Recoil" or "Tactical" and will be relatively light recoiling. Same with slugs.

IF it says 1600 fps it is considered "High Base" and is pretty potent stuff, IE: it will kick the snot out of you !

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Randy

Thanks Randy. Good info. Friendly addition. This would be true for all 2-3/4" non-magnum shells firing 8 or 9 pellets of 00 buck.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Thanks Randy. Good info. Friendly addition. This would be true for all 2-3/4" non-magnum shells firing 8 or 9 pellets of 00 buck.

Not necessarily,,, lots of Buckshot loads are non magnum but still high velocity. Above 1300 fps is high velocity.



Left: 1425 fps, Right: 1300 fps Not a huge difference, but if you fire 25 of them in a day you'll damn sure know the which one is which.



The key is to read the box they come in, there should be a velocity printed on it anything less than 1300 fps for any given load won't hurt you that bad,,, above that you need to have your gun handling down or the gun will beat you. Most #8 Dove loads regardless of Mfg are in the 1125 to 1225 fps range with 1 1/8 oz. of shot. You should be able to fire these day in and day out once your gun handling is solid.

Keep in mind most Tactical Shotguns M500/590's, Rem 870 are in the 6.5 to 7 lb range.

You are touching off 1oz. or more of payload at .45-70 velocities or more in a light weight gun. This is nothing to sneeze at.

Believe me when I tell you that firing a 1.25-1.5oz slug at 1600 fps will knock the snot out of you! 1 or 2 you can probably take, (and you will be bruised), but more than that, you will surely flinch and when that happens your cheek breaks it's weld with the stock and the gun smacks you in the chops!!!

This hurts bad!!!

Going for Shotgun Class #6 at Front Sight next month. Be shooting both my M500 and A5. Will take the test with the A5 so I can get the 4 in a row in<2.7 seconds!!!

Randy

[ysr_racer]

I bought a bunch of the fiocci 00 because it was cheap and I needed a lot for a class. It cycled fine, but the pattern is not nearly as tight as federal 00 with flight control. When we were patterning our shotguns at the beginning of class, the fiocci was spreading all over the place. I could barely get all 9 pellets on paper at 25 yards. One of my classmates gave me a few of his federal flight control, and same gun, same choke, same distance I was patterning about the size of a fist.

Fiocchi Defense Dynamics 12 Gauge Low Recoil 00 Buckshot won't cycle my Beretta A300, Estate will.