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  • #16
    200Apples
    -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2011
    • 7217

    I like this thread.

    Especially since I'm not a great wing shot (cross-dominant eye/hand)... so my shotguns are "social" shotguns, configured for combat/personal defense.

    I have four, all 12 gauge. Two are 1980 (the 50th Anniversary of the 870), one is an 1100 and the last a single-shot break action I chopped then reinstalled the og brass bead.
    .
    "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

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    • #17
      Mesa Defense
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 2172

      Originally posted by SandHill
      Hope everyone is enjoying their holiday. I have the ribs in the smoker where they will be for some time, and don't plan to get to in the pool and start drinking beer until it gets REALLY hot, so thought I would do a post I have been thinking about.

      Some of you may remember a member named DHart who was a real craftsman with old walnut and steel shotguns. He was an even better photographer. I will never equal him in either department, but his awesome "old school" home defense shotguns really inspired me.

      Here is my current home defense shotgun:

      [ATTACH]900668[/ATTACH]

      It's a Winchester Defender, 7 + 1 rounds, 18 inch barrel. 12 inch LOP and 36 5/8 inches nose to tail in it's current configuration. Not sure of the weight. Fully loaded, it is heavy for it's length now, but nicely balanced and I'm not going to be hunting Chukar with it or anything.

      I added a tritium big dot bead:

      [ATTACH]900669[/ATTACH]

      I wanted to cut down the stock to a 12 inch LOP, but was afraid of messing up the one that came with it, so I bought a used Winchester 1300 stock and forend off eBay for $25. The stock was actually nicer than the one that came on the defender because it had a checkered grip.

      [ATTACH]900672[/ATTACH]

      I had intended to swap out the forends as well, but decided that the wood matched close enough, so kept the original "corn cob" forend.

      I borrowed a power miter saw to make the cut on the stock, and invested in a fine tooth blade so it would cut smooth. I was kind of nervous about sanding down the recoil pad to match the cut down stock, but I think it came out pretty good:

      [ATTACH]900673[/ATTACH]

      Finally, I added some weight to the stock to make it balance with the shorter stock. It turned out that nickels are just the right diameter to fit just right in the hole for the bolt that attaches the stock to the receiver. I used a about a roll and a half of nickels, $3 worth. There are denser weights you can buy for this, and lot of people use lead shot, but the nickels were handy and easy to remove if I want to take the stock off again.

      I have D-mount for a light but not sure I want to put it on, so I am done for now.

      I keep it loaded by the bed with an empty chamber and seven rounds of Federal No. 1 Buck Flite-Control in the magazine. Should be enough to allow me to get to my AR and AK when the zombies come.

      The whole project was super cheap. I got the defender on Gunbroker for $200 plus $20 shipping. It's had some rounds through it, but the action is super slick and smooth and it's been utterly reliable. I did the FFL transfer and DROS when I was doing two other guns, so no extra charge. Stock was $25 plus $6 shipping. I don't remember how much the tritium bead was. I think I got it online for about $30, which I thought was a phenomenal deal, so I bought it. Only snafu was that I realized I would need a gunsmith to attach it to the (non ribbed) barrel and index it correctly. I think the gunsmith was $75, which was expensive for this project. I would have skipped the bead if I had realized that before I bought it. But the bead is nice.

      I just like the traditional look of it. Anybody else into "old school, tacticool?" Any photos to share?


      Smooth setup right there....

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      • #18
        -hanko
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jul 2002
        • 14174

        Originally posted by BigPimping
        That looks just great. I have the same firearm with polymer furniture. but I've been trying to get wooden furniture like that for quite some time.

        If you ever feel like selling, PM the pimp. Check my feedback I'm always looking for fly new firearms.
        Try HoosierGunworks.com...iirc they also will set up a wanted list for you.
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        • #19
          200Apples
          -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2011
          • 7217

          I just like the traditional look of it. Anybody else into "old school, tacticool?" Any photos to share?
          20160531_194838.jpg


          Remington 1100, factory 18.5" Parkerized, bead sight, improved cylinder choke barrel, Remington competition carrier, Wilson Combat 1-shot magazine extension and a Brownell's combat bolt handle. I call it "Texas" tactical.

          Only things missing are sling swivels. Must do that.

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          • #20
            W.R.Buchanan
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 3378

            Here's my "Old School " Tactical Gun. 1963 Browning Auto 5,,, 24" Buck Special Barrel with Rifle Sights. Briley Mag Extension 7+1 BPM Sling.



            1963 was the first year for the Speed Feed/two piece carrier. This change made it so when the gun was shot dry the bolt would stay open and as soon as you stuffed a round into the Magazine it was fed directly into the chamber and close the bolt,,, Ready to Fire. Right NOW!

            This eliminated the need to port load the first round in an empty gun, and turn the gun over and hold the bolt release while you shoved 4 more rounds in the magazine. Very slow process and this is so much faster it is silly.

            This gun has been thru two Front Sight Shotgun Classes and runs great. absolute joy to shoot.

            Randy
            Last edited by W.R.Buchanan; 08-05-2020, 9:02 AM.
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            • #21
              SandHill
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 2207

              Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan
              Here's my "Old School " Tactical Gun. 1963 Browning Auto 5,,, 24" Buck Special Barrel with Rifle Sights. Briley Mag Extension 7+1 BPM Sling.



              1963 was the first year for the Speed Feed/two piece carrier. This change made it so when the gun was shot dry the bolt would stay open and as soon as you stuffed a round into the Magazine it was fed directly into the chamber and close the bolt,,, Ready to Fire. Right NOW!

              This eliminated the need to port load the first round in an empty gun, and turn the gun over and hold the bolt release while you shoved 4 more rounds in the magazine. Very slow process and this is so much faster it is silly.

              This gun has been thru two Front Sight Shotgun Classes and runs great. absolute joy to shoot.

              Randy
              Glad to see I'm not the only one who appreciates old school. That is a fine looking A5. Have you seen what these guys do to them: http://www.bullcreekarms.com/pdfs/BC_whippet.pdf

              A real Bonnie and Clyde style whippet, but with an 18 inch barrel. I believe it would be CA legal. 30.5 inches overall. I'm not sure what the LOP is on these. If it is less than 12 inches, and I'm guessing it is, it would require some major modifications to shooting technique. But it's got to be better than pistol grip only, and at 30.5 inches, pretty handy.
              Pooty Poot, you sure screwed the pooch this time! - Ghost of Roza Shanina, WWII Soviet Sniper

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              • #22
                The War Wagon
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Apr 2011
                • 10294

                Originally posted by tmnguuyen
                M1 Benelli is old school. They don't make them anymore. How heavy is the rig with all those extra rounds outside and in the tube. Ever tried to unload the M1 fast? It is quite fast....

                It AIN'T light... but it's also at the back of the safe. I gotta LOTTA 5.56 & .308 to expend, BEFORE I get to it. Since the sling is the bandolier, it helps distribute the weight pretty nicely though.
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                • #23
                  Gryff
                  CGSSA Coordinator
                  • May 2006
                  • 12686

                  Originally posted by SandHill
                  Nah, brah, I didn't spend $3 in nickels on it. I'm just keeping the nickels there until I can get to the nickel slots in S. Lake Tahoe and hang with the other high rollers.
                  I can just see you walking into Harrahs with the shotgun saying, "That's right, mother****ers...I'm here for the slots."
                  My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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                  • #24
                    The War Wagon
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10294

                    OR... that you're all OUT of bubblegum!


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                    • #25
                      plumbum
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2010
                      • 5394

                      Great setup OP! I assumed the short stock was factory, good job on the chop job.
                      My Maverick is put together the same way: 12” LOP, 20” bbl and a green fiber optic bead - unfortunately in ugly black plastic
                      Originally posted by ysr_racer
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                      • #26
                        SandHill
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 2207

                        Originally posted by Gryff
                        I can just see you walking into Harrahs with the shotgun saying, "That's right, mother****ers...I'm here for the slots."
                        It's become my favorite coin purse. It's great when I walk into a Seven-11 with it, the line just disappears. Only problem is I need to use a screwdriver to take off the recoil pad to get to the nickels. I need to embed one of these into the stock, like a Speedfeed:

                        Last edited by SandHill; 06-14-2020, 10:22 PM.
                        Pooty Poot, you sure screwed the pooch this time! - Ghost of Roza Shanina, WWII Soviet Sniper

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                        • #27
                          Wordupmybrotha
                          From anotha motha
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 6965

                          Looks good.

                          I have a cheapo Big 5 Mossberg 500 synthetic stock. I wish I had bought one with wood stock.

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                          • #28
                            TurboChrisB
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5116




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                            • #29
                              tmnguuyen
                              Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 265

                              [QUOTE=TurboChrisB;24318714]

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                              • #30
                                tmnguuyen
                                Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 265

                                Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan
                                Here's my "Old School " Tactical Gun. 1963 Browning Auto 5,,, 24" Buck Special Barrel with Rifle Sights. Briley Mag Extension 7+1 BPM Sling.



                                1963 was the first year for the Speed Feed/two piece carrier. This change made it so when the gun was shot dry the bolt would stay open and as soon as you stuffed a round into the Magazine it was fed directly into the chamber and close the bolt,,, Ready to Fire. Right NOW!

                                This eliminated the need to port load the first round in an empty gun, and turn the gun over and hold the bolt release while you shoved 4 more rounds in the magazine. Very slow process and this is so much faster it is silly.

                                This gun has been thru two Front Sight Shotgun Classes and runs great. absolute joy to shoot.

                                Randy
                                I'm inspired, i'm seeing an A5 tacticool in the safe may be by year.

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