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  • ironman5669
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 1123

    pistol grip on 1187

    i have a remington 1187 that I would like to equip for three gun comp. is it legal to put a pistol grip stock on it with a 9 round mag tube?
  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    Yes.

    However, do not add a folding/extending stock with the pistol grip.
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    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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    • #3
      L-2
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 1333

      Originally posted by ironman5669
      i have a remington 1187 that I would like to equip for three gun comp. is it legal to put a pistol grip stock on it with a 9 round mag tube?
      Yes. Consider the Speedfeed brand which will come out looking something like this Remington 1100.
      Last edited by L-2; 06-25-2009, 6:22 PM.
      (former) Glock and 1911 Armorer; LEO (now retired)

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      • #4
        L-2
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 1333

        Originally posted by HK45 GUY
        So can he add a Knox stock if he pins the adjusting capability at his desired length?
        Theoretically, yes, but due to technical/mechanical design constraints, there is no Knoxx stock for a Remington 11-87. There's an "action spring tube" sticking out the back of the receiver which generally gets in the way.
        Last edited by L-2; 06-25-2009, 6:23 PM.
        (former) Glock and 1911 Armorer; LEO (now retired)

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        • #5
          aippi
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 2302

          I am about to list an 11-87 P and I have installed a Seed Feed IV-S. I thought that the pistol grip would make it an Assault weapon in your state. Is there a link on the DOJ site that would verify this as I don't want to refuse a Califorina buyer based on my ignorance.
          JD McGuire, Owner
          AI&P Tactical
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          • #6
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            shotguns can have pistol grips. Its just the combination of a semi-auto shotgun that has both a folding/collapsable stock AND a PG, thumbhole stock, or VFG.

            12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
            (6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
            (A) A folding or telescoping stock.
            (B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
            (7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
            (8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.


            That both reference means that it needs a part A AND a part B to be considered an AW. If it only has a part A OR only has one or more part Bs, then it is not an AW.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #7
              bruceflinch
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 40127

              Originally posted by L-2
              Yes. Consider the Speedfeed brand which will come out looking something like this Remington 1100.
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              Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

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              • #8
                hard_drive
                Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 130

                Yes. I also third the Speedfeed stock as well. They will accept the R3 pads. I have the above depicted 1100 and I am pretty sure the 11-87 and 1100 share the same furniture.

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                • #9
                  randy
                  In Memoriam
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 4642

                  Ironman if you are going to use it for 3 gun I would have screw in chokes installed. The cylinder bore is a bit too open for 3 gun in my book. IC or mod or at least the ability to change to fit the course of fire is a nice option.
                  I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

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                  • #10
                    ironman5669
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 1123

                    I use a 21inch bbl with rifle sights and remchoke. depending on the course i usually run a improved cylinder or modified choke.

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