Looking for a source to buy non-lead .410 bore

[trailbound]

Does anyone know of an LGS in Orange County/Southern California that is willing to order in specialty ammo by the case?

My 10yr old son wants to try quail hunting next season and we're struggling to find non-lead .410 bore shotshells. We located one box of Federal steel #6 at our local Turners but that's all I can find.
Any help is appreciated thanks.

[whutsup40]

Order it online and have it shipped to a local ffl.

[whutsup40]

I have a local gun store by me that will accept online orders, and just charges 5 dollars.

[Thefeeder]

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Ask Turners to order it for you, might be the easiest way. Or, as noted above, order on line and have it delivered to your FFL......reminder: cost + shipping + CA tax + FFL fee to take delivery.

[whutsup40]

LAX ammo is pretty well stocked, and I believe they have an O.C location.

[BOBGBA]

You may already know this, but if not, here's a few things to consider......

When switching from lead to steel, you want to shoot bigger pellets. So if you used to hunt quail with lead using #7.5, using steel #6 instead is about right (rule of thumb was 2 sizes bigger).

Steel is only about 71% as dense as lead.
Bismuth is about 86% as dense as lead.

If your budget permits, you may want to try bismuth, but it's pricey.
I've used 3" 9/16 oz bismuth in .410, the only place I've found it is online at able ammo. https://www.ableammo.com/catalog/rio...-p-140343.html

I have started to reload .410 #6 & #7 bismuth, 7/16 oz for the upcoming season. I am also reloading 3/4 oz bismuth in 28 gauge.

Chokes pattern differently with steel, a modified choke will pattern more like a full choke when shooting steel. Make sure your guns & choke tubes are steel shot compatible.

Last season, I used steel on my first shot (using a SxS or O/U) and bismuth on the second shot.

Hope this helps...

[trailbound]

Thanks to all that replied. I am going to order online and have it shipped to a local FFL.

You may already know this, but if not, here's a few things to consider......

When switching from lead to steel, you want to shoot bigger pellets. So if you used to hunt quail with lead using #7.5, using steel #6 instead is about right (rule of thumb was 2 sizes bigger).

Steel is only about 71% as dense as lead.
Bismuth is about 86% as dense as lead.

If your budget permits, you may want to try bismuth, but it's pricey.
I've used 3" 9/16 oz bismuth in .410, the only place I've found it is online at able ammo. https://www.ableammo.com/catalog/rio...-p-140343.html

I have started to reload .410 #6 & #7 bismuth, 7/16 oz for the upcoming season. I am also reloading 3/4 oz bismuth in 28 gauge.

Chokes pattern differently with steel, a modified choke will pattern more like a full choke when shooting steel. Make sure your guns & choke tubes are steel shot compatible.

Last season, I used steel on my first shot (using a SxS or O/U) and bismuth on the second shot.

Hope this helps...

I appreciate this information and will look into the bismuth. His shotgun is a Mossberg 510 youth gold model with a fixed modified choke. It's not stamped for steel nor does the owners manual mention it. They no longer offer this model so I plan to call the mfg to verify that it will accept steel and/or other non-lead shot. Thanks again.

[Elgatodeacero]

BOBGBA has given good advice. steel thru the fixed full choke of most .410s is not great and they just arent going fast enough for clean kills on game.

Bismuth is the way to go.

Able Ammo sells the Rio line of shells in bismuth and they have patterned pretty good in my .410.

I can also recomend Classic Doubles bismuth .410 shells, but the Rio shells are a much better price.

[BOBGBA]

Here's a quick read on steel/tungsten/bismuth

It seems to have been written some time ago, since it says Rio is the only maufacturer of bismuth shells...

http://www.huntingwithnonlead.org/bullets_shotgun.html