Any shotgun bans?

[WantsToShootStuff]

Hey guys, I havent been shooting in about 3 years and I have some free time so I was planning on going shooting. Does anyone know of any shotgun bans or limitations I just have a stock 870 Remington tactical. Hold 8 in the tube if I remember. I'm in Butte county and will be checking with the sheriff's office but I should be ok. Thanks for any replys

[Funjeff]

None on pump shotguns

[edgerly779]

Why go to cop shop to get wrong info from cops that cannot use there post cert to get on with real cop shop. Never ask for gun advice from cops that probably only speak glock. Next worst place for advice is local gun shop. (LOL)

[XVIga_Rob]

None on pump shotguns

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[johnk518]

None on pump shotguns

Here we go down the rabbit hole. . .I thought removable drums/magazines were a no no period?

[G-forceJunkie]

Yes, there are some, mostly configurations of the semi autos. Have you looked at the flow chart latley? https://www.calguns.net/caawid/sgflowchart.pdf

Does anyone know of any shotgun bans or limitations

[-hanko]

Here we go down the rabbit hole. . .I thought removable drums/magazines were a no no period?

I may be confused, but looks like this thread has ZERO to do with removable drums and/or magazines.

OP asked about a Remington 870 pump and nothing else.

[johnk518]

I may be confused, but looks like this thread has ZERO to do with removable drums and/or magazines.

OP asked about a Remington 870 pump and nothing else.

Correct, and you can put a mag on an 870 in other states. (You should retire that facepalm, it's in 90% of your posts)

[VolvoWrench]

Any restrictions on how many rounds a semi can hold?

[johnk518]

Any restrictions on how many rounds a semi can hold?

I do not think so, I've seen tubes twice as long as the barrel for 3 gun. I'll ask someone who participates to make sure.

Edit: Pump no limit, semi 10 round limit.

[VolvoWrench]

Thanks.
My new JM Pro and 3 gun in the future is why I ask.

[SkyHawk]

Here we go down the rabbit hole. . .I thought removable drums/magazines were a no no period?

Wrong, tons of these are for sale all over CA as pump guns, brand new in gun stores (such as Rem 870DM). Removable mag only banned on semi auto shotguns.

I do not think so, I've seen tubes twice as long as the barrel for 3 gun. I'll ask someone who participates to make sure.

Edit: Pump no limit, semi 10 round limit.

Also incorrect, tube is 10rd limit even on pumps. And if there are two tubes that feed without needing to be switched by the operator, the max tube capacity is 5rds ea tube. Witness the DP12 CA version which has to be plugged to limit tube capacity to 5rd from the free state version of 7rd http://www.stdgun.com/dp-12-california-compliant-plugs/

And the capacity is calculated by the shell length marked on the firearm. If it is not marked, then it is calculated by 2.75” shells.

Only lever action and rimfire tubes are exempt from the 10rd limit.

[johnk518]

Wrong, tons of these are for sale all over CA, brand new in gun stores. Removable mag only banned on semi auto shotguns.




Also incorrect, tube is 10rd limit even on pumps. And if there are two tubes that feed without needing to be switched by the operator, the max tube capacity is 5rds. Witness the DP12 CA version which has to be plugged to limit tube capacity to 5rd from the free state version of 6rd http://www.stdgun.com/dp-12-california-compliant-plugs/

I believe you, but I've never seen a mag on a pump. When you say 5 rd vs. 6 rds are you referring only to that Model?

[SkyHawk]

I believe you, but I've never seen a mag on a pump. When you say 5 rd vs. 6 rds are you referring only to that Model?

I see mag pumps at nearly every store I go to. Check out a gun store if you haven’t been in a while. They have really hit the market in the past 12 months or so.

The 5 vs 7rd (or 6+) only applies to the DP12, UTS15, or any other dual tube gun that feeds from both tubes without needing to be switched over.

You can see the DOJ emergency rulemaking document here addressing the DP12 and UTS, and also saying the KSG is OK.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/regs/lcmp-text-of-regs.pdf

It also says existing guns with more than 10rd tube capacity must be blocked, epoxied and riveted.

One or more magazines, each having a 10 round or less capacity, that are then attached to each other with tape, a plastic or metal coupler, or welded together would not be deemed a large-capacity magazine unless one of the following circumstances exist:
(A) The internal magazines of a firearm are part of a design function in which the combined ammunition capacity exceeds 10 rounds, and can be fired by the
shooter without manipulating the magazine selector switch. An example of this type of firearm is the Standard Manufacturing DP-12 pump shotgun. If the tubular magazines are permanently altered to reduce their capacity to 10 rounds or less as described in this section, then this firearm would not be deemed a large-capacity magazine.
(B) The internal magazines of a firearm are part of a design function in which the combined ammunition capacity exceeds 10 rounds and the firearm has a selector switch that allows the shooter to alternatingly use ammunition from more than one tubular magazine without having to manually switch the ammunition feeding process. An example of this type of firearm is the UTAS MAKINE LTD., MODEL: UTS-15, pump shotgun which has two seven-round tubular magazines. If the tubular magazines are permanently altered to reduce their capacity to 10 rounds or less as described in this section then this firearm would not be deemed a large- capacity magazine. Alternatively, if the UTS-15 magazine selector switch was modified so that the shooter had to manually switch the ammunition feed from one tube to another, then this firearm would not be deemed a large-capacity magazine.
(5) If a firearm with multiple tubular magazines, each having a 10 round or less capacity, must be manually switched from one tube to the other tube to use each group of ammunition, this type of firearm would not be deemed a large-capacity magazine. An example of this type of firearm is the KEL TEC, KSG shotgun which has two seven- round tubular magazines. While the tubes can collectively hold 14 rounds, the shooter must manually switch magazines. Another example of this type of firearm is the SRM-1216 semi automatic shotgun which has four four-round tubular magazines welded together. After firing the first four rounds the shooter must manually rotate the quad magazine clockwise to enable firing of the next group of four rounds. If a version of this firearm was manufactured that mechanically rotated the quad ammunition tubes it would be deemed a large-capacity magazine.

[SkyHawk]

Mossberg mag pump

https://www.mossberg.com/new-590m-mag-fed-pump-action/

Rem 870DM

https://www.remington.com/shotguns/tactical/model-870-dm/model-870-dm