Saiga 12 or FN slp ????

[chefdude]

Can anyone with experience with these 2 shotguns give me some advice as to which one to get??


Saiga 12 or FN slp

[Gunaria]

FN FTMFW!

[JeffM]

No experience with the FN, but I like my S12s. I'm an AK guy, so the manual of arms is very similar. No need to change up how I go about handling the gun.

Goes from buck/slugs/highbase loads to birdshot with a turn of the gas plug. I hit 90% clays when I'm out with my buddies. I still need to get another one with a 24" barrel and thread it for chokes to hit the long birds.

[drummerdude1188]

Can anyone with experience with these 2 shotguns give me some advice as to which one to get??


Saiga 12 or FN slp

What kind of advice are you looking for? which one looks the nicest, wich one is cooler? The way you asked the question is rediculous. So... What do you intend to use it for? 3 gun, HD, storming Falluja? Without this info you question is useless. I only have expirience with the saiga 12 ( I own one, a non converted 24in' bbl with vent rib sight) I have put alot of bird shot down the pipe and some magnum buck and slug. I would say in its unresticted form-ie no bb-it is a very versitile weapon sutable for any purpose you intend to use it for. In CA its more of a toy, as the mag changes are slow, yet still very fun. I will eventually get around to converting it to 18in bbl with flash hider and p-grip configuration, and I think this will be the uptimum setup of the gun.

[drummerdude1188]

Goes from buck/slugs/highbase loads to birdshot with a turn of the gas plug.

To the OP, fwiw, my gun will run buck/slug and bird shot without having to ajust the gas port. This is not meant negitivly tword you JeffM. Just pointing out the fact that the gas ports on the guns vary greatly.

[chefdude]

I am looking for a quality shotgun with a bit of a tactical edge that I can keep shooting for a very long time, Home protection, Birds, targets. I was told the FN Slp is pretty much the same shotgun as the Winchester Sx3 is this true?

[drummerdude1188]

Dont forget to add mags into the equation. AGP's are well over $50 a peice now, although there are others out there now. I still think the AGP's are the #1 choice though.

[popndrop]

1 for the SLP -
bullet buttons aren't great for practical use, and I wouldn't want to sit in front of a jury with a Saiga on the evidence desk - I really like my SLP - it shoots slugs and shot accurately and quickly. I can reload it pretty quickly using traditional methods. It looks like a traditional hunting shotgun with a shorter barrel, and it looks like the gun local PD use, so in the event that I have to use it in a HD situation, I'll be at least slightly more comfortable sitting in front of my 12 peers...

[chefdude]

good point +1 to that

[djleisure]

1 for the SLP -
bullet buttons aren't great for practical use, and I wouldn't want to sit in front of a jury with a Saiga on the evidence desk

That's almost a good point about mag changes on the Saiga, except for the fact that I guarantee that I can swap out a 10 round mag (even with a maglock) long before you get your 7+1 in the FN. Not even sure what to say about the jury comment - I have no idea what that means.

That being said, I wouldn't recommend the Saiga-12 to most people that don't already have a more, uh, practical gun around.

[tophatjones]

To the OP, fwiw, my gun will run buck/slug and bird shot without having to ajust the gas port. This is not meant negitivly tword you JeffM. Just pointing out the fact that the gas ports on the guns vary greatly.

If this is true, you may need to run a buffer in the receiver. The high brass setting may be allowing too much gas into the action, since there is enough gas to cycle low brass rounds. The adjustable gas port was specifically designed to allow low brass shooting and high brass shooting without allowing too much gas into the action on high brass. This prevents battering of the receiver. How is the shape of your rear trunnion?

[JeffM]

To the OP, fwiw, my gun will run buck/slug and bird shot without having to ajust the gas port. This is not meant negitivly tword you JeffM. Just pointing out the fact that the gas ports on the guns vary greatly.

No negativity received on this end. It's a known issue with some Saiga shotguns. There are some with too many or too large gas ports, but the most common are ones with too few gas ports. Both of mine have all four. Some come with three, and some have as few as two gas port holes drilled.

The ones with three holes do fine, but may need some break-in to run smoothly with light loads. The Saigas with only two holes, from owner reports, seem to be hit or miss. It seems like half run fine after a few hundred rounds break in, and some don't want to run some of the lighter loads like Walmart value packs at all.

RAA should fix it for warranty work, but IIRC the modifications to bring them into CA, and pistol grip conversions, void the warranty.


And +1 to not wanting to sit before the Court with an S12 on the table. If I ever have to shoot someone with a shotgun, I'll try to use my 590.

[drummerdude1188]

If this is true, you may need to run a buffer in the receiver. The high brass setting may be allowing too much gas into the action, since there is enough gas to cycle low brass rounds. The adjustable gas port was specifically designed to allow low brass shooting and high brass shooting without allowing too much gas into the action on high brass. This prevents battering of the receiver. How is the shape of your rear trunnion?

My gun runs both loads on setting 1, which is the setting for running high power loads. Its not that Im running both loads on setting 2 which would not be good for the gun. I do run a buffer in it regardless, so my rear trunnion is fine.

More about this...

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=262

[Vin496]

I am looking for a quality shotgun with a bit of a tactical edge that I can keep shooting for a very long time, Home protection, Birds, targets. I was told the FN Slp is pretty much the same shotgun as the Winchester Sx3 is this true?

Yes, it's true the FN SLP is a tactical cousin of the SX2.