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  • DonaldBabbett
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    • Aug 2014
    • 828

    There's thing thing called Five Stand I just heard about.

    There's THIS thing called Five Stand I just heard about.


    Sounds like another fad, Sporting Clays, from the 1990's.

    I am thinking about taking up something new: wingshooting.

    I want to eat what I knock out of the air with my scattergun. I don't fancy broken clay disks taste too great with gravy and mashed potatoes.

    I read a couple books about it including one Orvis book.

    What the authors suggest is that the skeet range provides the best target practice for developing wingshooters since it has 8 stations, a high and low house and present targets at every conceivable angle as a hunter would encounter in the field. There's even practice for doubles. The firer does not even have to have the gun mounted when PULL is called. The gun can be held in the normal field position.

    I don't think trapshooting even offers such versatility as skeet.

    When I consult with a shotgun instructor about novice wingshooting lessons, I will ask him about which automatic trap-launched game makes for best wingshooting target practice.
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    Thefeeder
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    • Jun 2007
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      ceh383
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 2536

      Originally posted by DonaldBabbett
      When I consult with a shotgun instructor about novice wingshooting lessons, I will ask him about which automatic trap-launched game makes for best wingshooting target practice.
      A combination of all clay games, and shoot them all low gun.
      "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

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        XVIga_Rob
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 2354

        Originally posted by ScottB
        Shooting beats reading about shooting every time.

        Don't over think it. Just go and spend some time shooting all three and get back to us.

        Sporting clays is the most realistic presentation of field shots, but requires a lot of land. 5-stand is a hybrid game that can be set up on an existing range.
        All the clay games are challenging & fun! I find 5-Stand & Sporting Clays to be more challenging, fun, & addictive! With that said, I’ve been shooting Trap recently, with my daughter. We shot a couple rounds earlier today!

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        • #5
          LynnJr
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          • Jan 2013
          • 7958

          Get an A300 with a field stock it will help your scores double in a month.
          Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
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          Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
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          URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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          • #6
            DonaldBabbett
            Banned
            • Aug 2014
            • 828

            Originally posted by ScottB
            Shooting beats reading about shooting every time.

            Don't over think it. Just go and spend some time shooting all three and get back to us.

            Sporting clays is the most realistic presentation of field shots, but requires a lot of land. 5-stand is a hybrid game that can be set up on an existing range. Trap presents going away targets at varying distances (16-27 yards + 11 yards to trap house) thrown at random angles. Most targets are broken at about 40 yards or so (from 16 yard line).Typically shot quickly while target is rising rising, but if you want to wait and shoot a falling target (harder) its up to you. Skeet all shots are fixed trajectories and if broken over the center point between the houses, all shots will be 22 yards. It is actually easier to crack 100 at skeet, even with a sub gauge, than it is at trap because of the predictability. Unless at a tournament or something, gun mount is typically shooters choice.
            It's important that the novice wingshooter learn proper body posture, footwork, stance, sight picture, gun mount, swing and follow-thru right off the bat or bad habits will develop that are hard to correct later on. A phenomenon called muscle memory sets in.

            If you use wrong form to learn to ride a motorcycle, surf or snow ski, your body will remember it wrong.

            This was stressed in my Orvis wingshooting book. It's like a bird dog that's spoiled for life since a pup due to improper early training.

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              meno377
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              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jul 2013
              • 4911

              See bird. Shoot bird. You can talk till your drop. Practice!
              Originally posted by Fjold
              I've been married so long that I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
              Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.
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              • #8
                DonaldBabbett
                Banned
                • Aug 2014
                • 828

                Originally posted by meno377
                See bird. Shoot bird. You can talk till your drop. Practice!
                Well, I feel compelled to get professional training anyway. There's important safety considerations when going after birds with bang sticks.

                I will do and practice as I am told from the teacher.

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                • #9
                  DonaldBabbett
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 828

                  Originally posted by LynnJr
                  Get an A300 with a field stock it will help your scores double in a month.
                  Actually, I want to start out with a gun I already have: a Remington 870 pump. 12 ga. With skeet loads and improved cylinder choke.

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                    meno377
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                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 4911

                    Originally posted by DonaldBabbett
                    Actually, I want to start out with a gun I already have: a Remington 870 pump. 12 ga. With skeet loads and improved cylinder choke.
                    Since you have a pump, don't worry too much about the loads. Any 7 1/2, 8, or 9 shot will do. Go to walmart and stock up for now.
                    Originally posted by Fjold
                    I've been married so long that I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
                    Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.
                    -Milton Friedman


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                    • #11
                      XVIga_Rob
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 2354

                      Originally posted by DonaldBabbett
                      Actually, I want to start out with a gun I already have: a Remington 870 pump. 12 ga. With skeet loads and improved cylinder choke.
                      Originally posted by meno377
                      Since you have a pump, don't worry too much about the loads. Any 7 1/2, 8, or 9 shot will do. Go to walmart and stock up for now.

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                      • #12
                        DonaldBabbett
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 828

                        Shooting a bunch of non-living targets with a gun is boring but a necessary evil to be an ethical hunter in the field.

                        Banging a gun at living targets is more interesting.

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                        • #13
                          Bastard
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 2209

                          5 stand is simply a condensed version of sporting clays without all the walking... not really but that is a simplified explanation.

                          IMHO it is absolutely worth trying out - but be warned it is one of the funnest things you can do with a shotgun

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                          • #14
                            DonaldBabbett
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 828

                            Originally posted by Bastard
                            5 stand is simply a condensed version of sporting clays without all the walking... not really but that is a simplified explanation.

                            IMHO it is absolutely worth trying out - but be warned it is one of the funnest things you can do with a shotgun
                            Next to hitting airborne pheasants so hard they hit the ground with a thud.

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                            • #15
                              DonaldBabbett
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 828

                              Originally posted by ScottB
                              You want to hear a thud, go drop a Canada goose or two.
                              Pheasants are yummier than greasy geese.

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