EDIT: SOLVED! (almost) ready for a Mossberg?

[ELR Researcher]

I have an 870 but it decides when it will allow you to feed the last round into the OEM extension. I've tried everything, and the last round won't insert into the tube but about every 4th time. I've done all the tips, tricks, suggestions... the thing feeds, cycles, and fires like a bank vault, but I can't have an unreliable gun for home defense.

So I was set to buy another 870 as a replacement, maybe an 870P, but I heard their quality control is a dumpster fire. And now I hear that Mossberg just announced they've banned Dick's as a Mossberg retailer, so I'd like to support a manufacturer that's on our side.

So questions I guess: I've never owned a Mossberg, so is it xyz model over an 870 Police? If so, which model of Mossberg?

I did a search on your tread and found that the 590M (mag-fed) was not mentioned. You noted possible interest in the 870 Police, so possibly extra rounds is of interest. The 590M comes standard with a 10 round mag - large but not that heavy when fully loaded. If you haven't already, suggest you review the CG tread on that model - http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1441810

[Socalman]

My first shotgun was a Mossberg 500 in 12ga. Listed below are all the problems I have had with it:

[strakill]

My first shotgun was a Mossberg 500 in 12ga. Listed below are all the problems I have had with it:

Nicely done. I have had the same experience with all the Mossbergs I own.

[shellslinger]

If you're looking for a new Mossberg, I would get the 590 7 Shot model (50778).

Don't quote me on this but from I've seen, models like this can typically use Mossberg 835 barrels. So you could get longer barrels for it if you wanted to.

[crufflers]

My first shotgun was a Mossberg 500 in 12ga. Listed below are all the problems I have had with it:

I had the same issues with mine. 20" Persuader synthetic...

[aippi]

Sounds like you are not installing the tube Extension Correctly. That is what cause your issue. You have a gap between the magazine tube and the tube extension inside the mag tube coupling. It is a not a problem with the gun. Watch this video and your problem is over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Bbflrueh0&feature=player_detailpage

[MJB]

Sounds like it's time to move up to the big boy toys...it's only money lol

[drinktothat421]

My vote is the type 3 follower from s&j hardware.

[langss]

Sounds like you are not installing the tube Extension Correctly. That is what cause your issue. You have a gap between the magazine tube and the tube extension inside the mag tube coupling. It is a not a problem with the gun. Watch this video and your problem is over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Bbf...yer_detailpage

Thank You for posting the link to your video. I have not had the occasion to take mine apart, and judging from your video it may have been one that was correctly assembled at Remington. But should I feel the need to remove the extension for whatever reason, I know know how to reassemble it correctly. Thank You again.

[golfish]

Old 870 wing masters are good to go. New Remington's suck. Grew up hunting with the 870 and went to replace my salt water duck gun back in 07 and that express was nothing but chit.

I agree, I'd look for an older Wingmaster. I have the Wingmaster and an 1100 built in the 80s. The quality is awesome.

I also have a MB 500 and a 590A1. There reliable guns but they dont have he nice wood and blued finish of the Remingtons.

[pratchett]

Sounds like you are not installing the tube Extension Correctly. That is what cause your issue. You have a gap between the magazine tube and the tube extension inside the mag tube coupling. It is a not a problem with the gun. Watch this video and your problem is over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Bbf...yer_detailpage

Oh, hey there! Your text post of this matter was what I was referencing I tried earlier. Nice to know you're active here. Anyway, no joy on that. I did try it based on your text, and the video I showed was what I did. My next step is to take it to a smith.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Whatever you decide you need to go to a Tactical Shotgun class and learn how to run the gun.

The Mossberg's have several advantages over the 870.

First is location of the safety. It is ambi so it can work with either hand equally as well.

Second is the location of the slide release at the back of the trigger guard. This position allows you to work the release with your middle finger of the firing hand and not have to change your grip. This comes in handy for doing chamber checks, and unloading the gun it is much easier to operate than the Rem.

Third is the Ejection Port. It is much larger than the Rems and facilitates Port Loading much easier. Also the Rems have a hump on the lifter that tends to get in the way.

Port Loading is 50% of running the gun. Magazine loading is what you do before you fight, and when Time and Cover permit. Otherwise you are Port Loading the gun to keep it running. You change ammo types by port loading it is easier to accomplish with the Mberg.

This is where the Mossberg's separate themselves from the Rem's. Also the Military is not buying Remington 870's, they are buying Mossberg 590A1's that should tell you something.

The 590's I'd be looking at are the model with a 20" barrel and full length magazine tube with rifle sights and a ghost ring rear sight, or the 18.5" barreled model with Rifle sights and open rear sight. I just saw one of those yesterday and liked it a lot.

In both of the classes I have been to, the guys with 870's had problems being able to do the same things as me with my M500. Port Loading, Unloading the gun, and gun manipulation in general are much easier with the Mossberg's.

There are two main differences between the M500 and 590, and this is only true of certain variations or exact model numbers. Most 500's and basic 590's are virtually the same guns with different finishes.

590A1's have metal trigger guards and thicker walled barrels. Some have rifle sights and I consider them to be a must have for anything other than strict Home Defense. You need to look at both models and decide. The M500's are slightly lighter guns which may or may not benefit you. Lighter equals more recoil transferred to you. for 2-3 shots nobody cares, for 200-300 shots everybody cares.

Also consider buying a gun with the Magpul furniture already installed, as you are going to want it and it works really well to help you fit the gun to you.

If the gun doesn't fit you correctly,,, it will beat the snot out of you!

I'd sell the 870 and use the money to get a Mberg ,,,you'll never look back.

Randy