Thinking about added one to my arsenal for HD and backcountry SD use. Would add a FTSS switch. Informed opinions appreciated.
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Opinions on Kel-Tec KSG?
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Opinions on Kel-Tec KSG?
Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000.
The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.Tags: None -
I think it's a toy. The amount of plastic used increases the amount of felt recoil and you are better off saving a few hundred dollars by getting a Mossberg or Remington. Firing the thing fast can be dangerous if your hand slips off the slide, a few people have blown their hands off.best troll thread in calguns history
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Definitely a novelty item, I had one but ultimately sold it. I would look to something more reliable for home defense and it is way to bulky for backcountry use. The capacity was nice, but if you ever had to reload it under pressure you are better off throwing it at your attacker. The build quality on mine was lacking as was the overall fit and finish. For pretty much equal money I would look at one of the new generation Beretta 1301 Tactical models. It will serve every purpose you listed and be better at it.sigpicComment
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I just picked mine up 2 weeks ago and have taken it out twice already. I don't have a ton of rounds through it yet but I really enjoy it. I did lots of research on it before I bought mine and from my experience, people either love them or hate them. Is it worth almost double the price of a Mossberg or Remington? Meh, I don't know. It's a cool looking gun IMO and it's been on my short list of must have's for a while. There are some things that are a pain in the you know what about it and I can see why people sell them off because of it. If you do decide to purchase it I'd highly recommend one of these the felt recoil isn't bad at all with that installed. I was concerned about all the reports of people blowing their hands off but as far as I'm concerned, I don't see that being a reasonable fear. I can see how it can happen but with proper gun safety and trigger knowledge, I don't see it being a real concern. I'm in the Fullerton/Brea area if you're somewhat local and haven't shot one but would like to before considering it further.Last edited by lexanidubs09; 03-18-2018, 12:43 PM.Comment
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I have the regular KSG and the KSG 25 and love them. I've never had any issues with them. I had the regular KSG since 2014. They cycle minishells no problem too.Comment
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I haven't had a lot of range time with it but my impression was that you would be better off with a remington or mossberg (tactical version) for self defense.
Its a solid weapon but i felt that there was a potential under stress to get snagged up when pumping it or when trying to switch to the alternate tube.
Just like anything else though, if you train with it enough, you will have command of it and it will do fine as a sd weapon.
What is nice about it is the fact that you have two separate tubes so you can alternate between buckshot and slugs at will. This will potentially come in handy during a sd situation.Comment
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I like mine. Awesome HD shotgun.__________________________________________________ _____________
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I think it's a toy. The amount of plastic used increases the amount of felt recoil and you are better off saving a few hundred dollars by getting a Mossberg or Remington. Firing the thing fast can be dangerous if your hand slips off the slide, a few people have blown their hands off.Comment
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I just looked at the Beretta 1301 and found this video which, at 7 minutes reveals a deal breaker.Definitely a novelty item, I had one but ultimately sold it. I would look to something more reliable for home defense and it is way to bulky for backcountry use. The capacity was nice, but if you ever had to reload it under pressure you are better off throwing it at your attacker. The build quality on mine was lacking as was the overall fit and finish. For pretty much equal money I would look at one of the new generation Beretta 1301 Tactical models. It will serve every purpose you listed and be better at it.
Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000.
The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.Comment
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I own the 1301 Comp and am well aware of this "issue" which is user error. If you are really that hard over about it there are a number of companies which make "fixes" for various amounts of money. Stock this is still a better shotgun than a KSG will ever be.I just looked at the Beretta 1301 and found this video which, at 7 minutes reveals a deal breaker.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fBmuPQGX1vg
*Edit: The bolt release has also been redesigned in the new generation models which I suggested.Last edited by Thanatos2203; 03-20-2018, 8:38 AM.sigpicComment
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There are reasons the 870 has been with us since 1950 and the 500 since 1960. Figure those reasons out and you will answer your question.JD McGuire, Owner
AI&P Tactical
Remington Law Enforcement Armorer
Mossberg LE Armorer
www.aiptactical.com
www.tacticalgunslings.com
If you're going to a gun fight, take a shotgun. If you can't take a shotgun, don't go.Comment
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It's my only pump gun. I have severe osteoarthritis and it's difficult to cycle a standard pump like an 870. The vertical grip (I added) allows me to cycle it much more proficiently.
it's a fun toy, but that's all I consider it.Comment
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They kick like a mule. Mine ejected the rounds right on my wrist in the same spot every time and hurt like a son of a *****. Mine was real sticky and kind of glitchy to operate. I would grab an 870/590 in a serious situation over a keltec any day of the week."If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas JeffersonComment
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