Mossberg 590SP Sling Setup Recommendations?

[Günter]

I bought this Mossberg 590SP (#50645) several years ago as my first and only shotgun. Over the years it has proven to become one of my favorite guns, so I decided to invest in some upgrades on it. The shotgun serves as home defense / riot gun, and recreational shooting, I may have put too much crap on it but it is not meant to be a light weight setup, I intend to keep it looking heavy duty and intimidating.

With the shotgun starting to become cumbersome, I want a suitable sling, I'm only experienced with a traditional military style two sling setup, but I am also interested in other configurations. My question is what sling and mount setup would you guys recommend?
Single Point, Two Point, Single-to-Two point hybrid?
Standard or Padded Straps?
Fixed/Slotted/Looped/Swivel/QD Mounts?
Brand: Blue Force Gear, Magpul, Viking Tactics etc?

I would prefer the sling setup not interfere with the current configuration of:
UTG Top Picatinny Rail
Bushnell TRS-25 Red Dot Sight
Mesa Sureshell Aluminum Side Saddle
Magpul SGA Stock
Magpul MOE Forend
Streamlight TLR-1S Weapon Light
M9 Bayonet (Frankenstein made up of S&W and Ontario parts)

[tomk556]

So for shotguns I usually stick to a military-style two point sling/carry strap. I think I use a Magpul MS1, but honestly that's kind of over-kill- in times past I've literally used webbing and REI buckles. The carry strap works for me. You can American and African carry (muzzle up to muzzle down) and still bring the weapon into a firing position quickly. When the weapon's on your shoulder it's decently retained and out of the way. The carry strap also won't interfere with anything you have on there and shouldn't be in the way for loading from the bottom.

I don't like single points on the 590. For one, I think the shotgun is too long (picture, all the length from the rear of the receiver forward) with a single point and the muzzle ends up too close to the ground. I also haven't found a decent way to "anchor" the single point to the gun. There are loops that go around the grip of the stock, but those tend to get in the way of the firing hand, the safety, and the slide release. They're cheap, you could try it. There are also those metal pieces that slide in line between the stock and the receive but they change your length of pull and on the 590 (like a lot- it's only a 3/16" or so but suddenly you want massive fingers) also the way you manipulate the safety and slide release. (this thing: https://mesatactical.com/products/sl...70-12-ga-ambi/) Someone like Mesa Tactical may make an anchor where you replace one of the receiver pins but I've never liked those because those pins and the stuff they hold inside the weapon weren't designed for that. That's been more of a concern for me on a Benelli where subtleties with the inertia system matter a lot more, so perhaps it's worth trying on a 590 if you find one you like? Finally, I don't like the single point because again, the anchor will be near the area of your firing hand which is running the trigger, the safety, and slide release- on an AR the single point is way further back if it's on the butt stock and stays out of the way. Again you could probably make it work and get used to it, but eh.

VTAC slings, or like hybrid two points that side-sling and can be tensioned/un-tensioned work for some and allow you to sling the weapon nicely across your chest. As a left handed shooter they were always cumbersome for me on shoguns because they got in the way on the ejection port and I had to fumble with select-slug and shoot1/load1 drills. If you shoot right handed, that shouldn't be an issue, but maybe it'll be in the way of the side saddle some?

So in short, I don't think I have been any help Look at the accessories section and buy stuff other guys are dumping and try it all out.

[FeuerFrei]

My shotguns are all set up with 2 pointers I made myself. Moss 500, 590 & 930 SPX.
Uncle Mike's hardware and webbing/buckles from Amazon.
2pt works best for me because I shoot L&R handed.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Gunter; after doing a 2 day shotgun course at Front Sight I reconfigured my sling setup to what it is now.

First you need a front attachment which is close to where your rear Bayonet Lug is. Magpul makes one that grabs the barrel and magazine tube.

Forget about the sling slots in the stock. They are too far back and when you have the gun slung cross body the sling will hang up on your face and it is impossible to run the gun from the "high ready" position without getting out of it completely.

Magpul has a neato sling attachment lug that goes in between the stock and receiver, and attaching the rear of the sling there is the best of all worlds as it doesn't interfere with any of your gun handling. You use both the front and back attachment points with either Magpul slings or just their QD sling clips if you make your own slings..

I went one farther, as I make most of my own slings from Nylon Belt material. I included a Magpul Sling Clip to both ends and a large split ring on the rear clip so that I can hook the Front clip to it and run the sling as a single point or disconnect the whole mess with only one clip.

This setup allows me to run the sling cross body, cross back, over either shoulder, single point or not at all, and the change over is literally seconds for any one way to any other. I can engage from the high, low or field ready positions without having to take the sling off my body

Here's some pics.

Good luck, and go to a Front Sight Shotgun Class and really learn how to run that gun.

Randy

[tomk556]

That's a nice setup. How does that connect to the stock on the rear, is it part of the magpul stock? Btw, you can add this with a magpul sling in lieu of the slip ring- I've burned a ton of money making a cheap MS1 the most highspeed MS3.

I also agree re Front Sight or any multi-day course; running a shotgun is an art.

[FeuerFrei]

WR's sg looks solid.
My only Q is how do you run it lefty mode. Looks like a righty only sling config. They do train righty, lefty mode or ???


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[W.R.Buchanan]

TomK there is an plastic insert in the Magpul Stock that the sling mount replaces. You just remove the stock pop out the insert put in the sling loop and reinstall the stock. It is ambi also.

FF: They don't make any effort to teach weak hand anything except in the "advanced tactical classes" at FS. The class I went to was just the 2 day Shotgun class that is a good idea to take before you take a Skill builder or 4 day class that you can graduate from, and move on to the Tactical classes.

If I needed to shoot the gun left handed I'd just get out of the sling and shoot left handed. The Sling Mounts on both ends of the gun will reverse for use by a Lefty.

Magpul stuff is pretty well thought out.

I also have an M500 HD gun which is just the simple 18" barreled 5 shot model. been waiting for Brownell's to restock on the gray colored SGA Stock and fore end so I can upgrade it too. It will have the rear Sling mount but it probably won't get used, but it will also get a light mounted on the fore end.

Randy..

[TKCastle]

I took a SG class with ITTS and ran a MAGPUL ms4 gen2 doulbe/single point. I ended up running all single point for the whole day with a Qd mount on the same stock you have.

Worked great and fully opened i can swith to support side no problem. Thinking your muzzle would hit the ground in single point is silly, dont listen to that guy. Best part, when taking breaks and you bench you gun all you do is remove one QD and leave the sling wrap around your chest.

Tanking SG II in april and im running tha same set up.

[Günter]

Thanks for all of your guys' input, I appreciate it!

I'm sold by Magpul's modularity in sling configuration.
I think I will go with the Magpul MS1 Padded sling (figure padding is nicer for a heavier gun), start off with a two point setup, and experiment around 1-point MS3/MS4 style hybrid accessories for the stock and sling mounts. Never had any experience with QD mounts, I wonder if they are durable and worth the extra cost. I've also been interested in GG&G sling plate on the front, debating between slotted or QD types.

[Svashtar]

Thanks for all of your guys' input, I appreciate it!



I'm sold by Magpul's modularity in sling configuration.

I think I will go with the Magpul MS1 Padded sling (figure padding is nicer for a heavier gun), start off with a two point setup, and experiment around 1-point MS3/MS4 style hybrid accessories for the stock and sling mounts. Never had any experience with QD mounts, I wonder if they are durable and worth the extra cost. I've also been interested in GG&G sling plate on the front, debating between slotted or QD types.

[tomk556]

I took a SG class with ITTS and ran a MAGPUL ms4 gen2 doulbe/single point. I ended up running all single point for the whole day with a Qd mount on the same stock you have.

Worked great and fully opened i can swith to support side no problem. Thinking your muzzle would hit the ground in single point is silly, dont listen to that guy. Best part, when taking breaks and you bench you gun all you do is remove one QD and leave the sling wrap around your chest.

Tanking SG II in april and im running tha same set up.

Now in fairness I did say "too close to the ground" not that it would hit the ground The magpul single to double is a nice concept, that's how I run my ARs. I don't love it for shotguns because they're so much longer than a carbine. I will add here that the single point is by far the simplest method to use and retain with typically.

[W.R.Buchanan]

I make my slings out of the same material as 5.11 makes their BDU Belts out of. It is 1.5" wide so that it distributes the weight better. It is also very flexible and feels good against a tee shirt so you can use it during the summer without discomfort. Been doing this for some time and all my Carbines have slings made of this material.

The idea of modularity is the key here because no one method will cover all possible or current usages. You need the flexibility to change to fit the circumstance. That change also needs to be quick so you can actually put that modularity to practical use.

I haven't had any QD attachments fail or even not work right. When they designed the sockets they made them so there is an anti spin feature which only allows the swivel to rotate a few degrees either direction in any of the 4 possible positions. This makes it so the swivel doesn't get all tangled up, and maintains it's position on the gun.

Magpul hardware is some of the best stuff out there and as long as you can figure out what you need before you end up at "Trial and Error" the cost is reasonable.

Randy