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  • jon94520
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2016
    • 762

    1145 FPS in a Semi auto

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  • #2
    newbutold
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2017
    • 1952

    If it runs 50 without a failure, I'd say the low base are reliable.
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    • #3
      CG11
      Member
      • Oct 2017
      • 216

      Why change? If what you are using is reliable, I would return the short brass and get what you normally run.
      I'm not that happy to see you - It's a gun.

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      • #4
        jon94520
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2016
        • 762

        Originally posted by CG11
        Why change? If what you are using is reliable, I would return the short brass and get what you normally run.
        Good point, the low brass is Federal with flight control. The high brass Remington ammo functioned great but the spread was wider than I want.
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        • #5
          dennis1979gm
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 524

          If it doesnt run check out or3gun.org i put the security combo kit in my 930spx and it runs 1145 all day with no issues. You may not need it but its an option if it gives you issues.
          ]If its not a COLT its a COPY!

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          • #6
            pennstater
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 4657

            I can't say for certain, but, it seems I've read/heard that years ago, it really doesn't matter regarding low brass/high brass. Maybe that is for target loads or lighter upland loads. Could be different for HD type stuff. It just seems that's what I saw somewhere. Could be wrong. Someone will chime in.

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            • #7
              Thefeeder
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2007
              • 5007

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              I take that the Federal shells you have are the 8 pellet low recoil Law Enforcement.

              Those are very light loaded shells and 50/50 if they will run reliably in your SA

              You can stop by Walmart and get some of these and save some bucks while checking if they will run ...same shells with different size pellets coming out the barrel.



              Pie....you have it right, low base means gabonk, some low base rival some Hi base shells on the market

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              • #8
                Dellinger
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 745

                My SPX was like Pac-Man. Ate everything. If it works and you like it keep feeding it.
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                • #9
                  JJ1911
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 597

                  Keeping my gas piston clean is more important for my 930 than what type of ammo I fed it.


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                  The "best" handgun caliber debate rages on, meanwhile I just keep buying low recoil 00 buck.

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                  • #10
                    NapalmCheese
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 5953

                    Originally posted by newbutold
                    If it runs 50 without a failure, I'd say the low base are reliable.
                    Originally posted by pennstater
                    I can't say for certain, but, it seems I've read/heard that years ago, it really doesn't matter regarding low brass/high brass. Maybe that is for target loads or lighter upland loads. Could be different for HD type stuff. It just seems that's what I saw somewhere. Could be wrong. Someone will chime in.
                    Of interesting note:
                    There are "low brass" shotgun shells. There are "high brass" shotgun shells. There are "low base" shotgun shells. There are "high base" shogun shells.

                    Low brass shotgun shells are not the same as low base shotgun shells. It is entirely possible to have a low brass high base shotgun shell.

                    Low brass means something with a short brass head on the hull. High brass means something with a taller brass head on the hull. Low base refers to something with a short basewad in the hull. High base refers to something with a taller basewad in the hull. Since shotgun shells generally run at pretty low pressure, and since plastic doesn't burn out like paper, and since the chamber tends to support the shotgun shell more than the brass does, it is not longer necessary to produce shotgun shells with brass that surrounds the powder (meaning no more low brass/high brass nonsense, it can all be low brass); but people are fickle and feel that high powered shotshells should have high brass hulls. The low base/high base has more to do with the internal construction of the hull and to some extent dictates the quantity of powder and type of wad that may be used.
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                    • #11
                      jon94520
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 762

                      Thanks for all the responses, I ran 50 shells through her last weekend and they all ran great. They even ejected into the same pile as the hotter 12 gauge I was using before.
                      This is my HD shotgun so I always keep her well cleaned and oiled so that should ensure reliability.
                      On a side note, that flight control Federal is awesome, instead of a pattern it leaves a baseball sized hole through the target...awesome.
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                      • #12
                        pennstater
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 4657

                        I believe NapalmCheese explained the high/low base/brass thing better than me. Wasn't sure, so, thanks.
                        As to keeping the gas piston clean on 930's; yes, that's a must, about every 300 or so rounds, I'll clean all that. Get some pipe cleaners and clean those two gas ports. Big help.

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                        • #13
                          langss
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 929

                          Originally posted by NapalmCheese
                          Of interesting note:
                          There are "low brass" shotgun shells. There are "high brass" shotgun shells. There are "low base" shotgun shells. There are "high base" shogun shells.

                          Low brass shotgun shells are not the same as low base shotgun shells. It is entirely possible to have a low brass high base shotgun shell.

                          Low brass means something with a short brass head on the hull. High brass means something with a taller brass head on the hull. Low base refers to something with a short basewad in the hull. High base refers to something with a taller basewad in the hull. Since shotgun shells generally run at pretty low pressure, and since plastic doesn't burn out like paper, and since the chamber tends to support the shotgun shell more than the brass does, it is not longer necessary to produce shotgun shells with brass that surrounds the powder (meaning no more low brass/high brass nonsense, it can all be low brass); but people are fickle and feel that high powered shotshells should have high brass hulls. The low base/high base has more to do with the internal construction of the hull and to some extent dictates the quantity of powder and type of wad that may be used.
                          Thanks for explaining all that. I never knew the difference. I usually buy what's cheap with no regard for the High/Low brass thing. When I was actively shooting Trap, I bought shells specifically for Trap and again never paid any attention to the Brass. Funny, I actually have several boxes of reloaded Paper Hulls, I'll have to dig them out and see what the Brass is.......

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                          • #14
                            Huntsprig
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 1428

                            Originally posted by NapalmCheese
                            Of interesting note:
                            There are "low brass" shotgun shells. There are "high brass" shotgun shells. There are "low base" shotgun shells. There are "high base" shogun shells.

                            Low brass shotgun shells are not the same as low base shotgun shells. It is entirely possible to have a low brass high base shotgun shell.

                            Low brass means something with a short brass head on the hull. High brass means something with a taller brass head on the hull. Low base refers to something with a short basewad in the hull. High base refers to something with a taller basewad in the hull. Since shotgun shells generally run at pretty low pressure, and since plastic doesn't burn out like paper, and since the chamber tends to support the shotgun shell more than the brass does, it is not longer necessary to produce shotgun shells with brass that surrounds the powder (meaning no more low brass/high brass nonsense, it can all be low brass); but people are fickle and feel that high powered shotshells should have high brass hulls. The low base/high base has more to do with the internal construction of the hull and to some extent dictates the quantity of powder and type of wad that may be used.

                            Very good explanation of the high/low base/brass thing.

                            I'll add one more thing.

                            As a general rule the weight of the shot in the shell determines whether a shell is high or low brass.

                            For example in 12 gauge 2 3/4" lead hunting loads, 1.25 oz. and more will be high brass less than that will be low brass.
                            Last edited by Huntsprig; 11-18-2017, 6:17 PM.



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